Thanks Ryan
Just for clearification
I am now not making any connections
That may be because I changed from static intranet IP's to the DHCP for local connections.
At least we could make a connection using static IP's
This problem seems to be only where we have a dynamic external IP
Another winXP machine is having no problem where there is a static external IP and static internal IP
I think we turned on the DHCP on the 1st install and then went to static, so I am going to reinstall 5.1.2 w/o DHPC and see if that makes any diff.
watch for results!