Topic: Front Page extensions

[Jim Blackwood]

I'm a novice on this but trying to learn. Using my W2k workstation I downloaded fp40.linux.tar to the Admin folder on my Linux server. I can log on as root but can't figure out how to get to that folder and uncompress and install the file. Any suggestions? TIA

[Bobby]

Try this:
cd /home/e-smith/files/usrs/admin/home

That should, I think, take you to the directory where you may have uploaded your file.

This only gets you to the location.

Do you know how to use a tar file?  Was there a how-to where you downloaded it?

/B

[Jon]

If you login to the shell and type "mc" enter you will get midnight commander.
It makes it easy to move around, copy etc. there is more info on it at http://www.myezserver.com/
under the support menu option.

You need to read up on template customising and search here and the experienced user forum for previous trys, but be carefull as some of the stuff is misleading.
I have given FP Ext a quick try and failed, It is not easy to do.

If you do manage to get it working please do a "how to" as there appear to be many ppl who want it working. (even if there are some who deride FP)

Good luck

JP

[Wietse]

Does E-smith support Front Page Extensions automatically?? Or do I have to install some other thingies too (like install some modules?)?

Thanks in advance,
Wietse
The Netherlands

[Jim Blackwood]

Thanks Bobby. I was able to cd to /home, then /e-smith, then /usr, but that's where I got stuck. Tried the whole thing at once, no good. Tried /usrs instead of /usr, no good. Used ls -a, and it looks like I've got to go back and look at the file structure again as I seem to be missing something.

Tried Jon's mc suggestion, and after fiddling with it a bit got to the tar file.

The info I have on it came from: http://www.kegel.com/linux/fpext.html which says to uncompress the file. I attemped to do that by entering "uncompress fp40.linux.tar.z" and then when that didn't appear to do anything hit a couple function keys, f3, f2, and f4 I believe. At this point it appears to have uncompressed the file, as the screen blanked with " "/tmp/gzed.1015431589" [noeol] 107860L, 27893760C " and after a couple of seconds filled up with @^@^@^@^......, some other numbers, and frontpage/version4.0/bin/fpsvadm.exe.

The file is many pages long. I have yet to reach the end of it using "Page Down"

Stopping now to take the boy to school, I appreciate the help very much and will certainly give feedback if it works. Also, I can understand that people don't like FP, not that fond of it myself but my webmaster likes it.

Jim

[Luke Drumm]

You may be insterested in the following command:

tar xvf filename

Where filename is the tar file you wish to 'untar'.

It's quite common for tar files to be compressed via programs such as gzip. You can either use gzip manually first, or you can take advantage of Tar 'knowledge' of gzip and run:

tar xvfz filename

Usually gzipped tar have and filename ending in .gz.

Regards,
Luke

[Bobby]

Jim,

So sorry....think I had a typo.  The directory is users, I think.

Here is the command.

cd /home/e-smith/files/users/admin/home

Just verified the path works on one of my servers.

When you did a ls in the files directory the users directory should have showed up.

Once again, sorry for the typo.

/B

[Jim Blackwood]

No, I'm sure it wasn't your fault Bobby. Most likely my syntax is wrong or I ended up in the wrong directory at some point. Anyway I used mc again and  I finally got it to uncompress, I think when I put "/" before "frontpage". Down two levels is the installation script and readme file, and after a lot of attempts I extracted the install script and readme file, which I have opened with lynx and am in the process of reading.
btw, what is M-! ? Says I can execute programs and see the output, seems like that might be handy. Sorry for what I'm sure are simple questions, I'm finally starting to make some sense of some of my reading, but still having trouble with finding answers.

Jim

[Jim Blackwood]

Running the install script, it wants the "Server Config filename:" Can someone tell me what that should be? TIA

[rh8x]

First, by running this script you will not get far.
Second, you should rebuild Apache/Frontpage Ext from source.
Third, to be successfull in this, you have to remove MANY dependant rpms which will most likely not happen as there are WAY too many programs depending on them. ESPECIALLY the E-SMITH rpms
If you have a test box with a generic build of ANY linux, let's say Red Hat in this example.
You would have to have the Apache Source, FrontPage Ext Source then you would have to install the Apache and open FrontPage source copy Apache-FP Source to Apache directory then PATCH it, then ADD the FP Module, then Make the Apache Source, then Make Install the Apache,then Run the FrontPage SH file and and answer the Questions appropriately..Make sure to Configure the HTTPD.CONF file to ALLOW ALL(where needed) before running SH script.
This is very simple to do on a generic install of Red Hat and other distros, but on E-SMITH you have a better chance finding Bin Ladin for 25 million. Just too many dependent rpms to uninstall.
Sorry, for the bad news.

[Jim Blackwood]

Well, at least now I know. That's worth a good bit, so I thank you. It's clearly more than I want to attempt now, and maybe ever. Guess I'll have to find another solution. Any suggestion as to the easiest transition out of FP and into something that's more e-smith friendly? Looks like I'll have to wean my webmaster and it'll be a slow process.