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Where can I find the latest DAR installation instruction?

Offline judgej

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Where can I find the latest DAR installation instruction?
« on: June 17, 2007, 12:22:14 PM »
This keeps tripping me up with every smeserver installation: finding the various contributions.

There are lots of announcements of betas, of download areas that have moved, of solutions to problems etc., but trying to find the *one* definitive place to go for this contribution with the *one* definitive installation instructions is neigh on impossible.

So - my rant aside - anyone have any idea where I can find DAR for the latest SME Server 7.x?

Thanks,

-- Jason

PS And yes, of course I tried search ;-)
-- Jason

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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2007, 01:04:46 PM »
Most of them should be in the wiki... as this should be the place to gather them all.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than its worth ~ Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)

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Re: Where can I find the latest DAR installation instruction
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2007, 01:10:22 PM »
Quote from: "judgej"
PS And yes, of course I tried search ;-)
I doubt that... searching for dar the second hit (right after this thread) is this: How to install/setup dar utility. In this thread you are pointed to the current location of the contrib and is dated June 15th... how much fresher do you need it?
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than its worth ~ Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)

Offline judgej

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Re: Where can I find the latest DAR installation instruction
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2007, 02:14:31 PM »
Quote from: "cactus"
Quote from: "judgej"
PS And yes, of course I tried search ;-)
I doubt that... searching for dar the second hit (right after this thread) is this: How to install/setup dar utility. In this thread you are pointed to the current location of the contrib and is dated June 15th... how much fresher do you need it?


But did you actually take a look at the link, or just assume it must be the right one because the title looked good? All it does is dump the visitor into an FTP directory full of RPMs.

There is no way of knowing whether that is the latest, whether that is the place to come back to for updates, whether all the RPMs need installing, whether there is a yum server to keep track of, and install updates, etc. So is that thread the definitive place to find information on this contrib? Will it get updated? If it does, will it turn into another six-page topic on the same contrib that I see in other places, where it is impossible to see the wood for the trees?

You see, I did search. So did you. And neither of us came up with a real HOWTO.

I'll make this promise: when I've found the instructions (which I strongly suspect will consist of snippets distributed across WIKI, FTP servers, forum posts and bugs), I'll write it up in the WIKI.

-- Jason

PS I don't see anything dated June this year. 'dar2' v0.0.1-2 22nd March all I can see. Are we perhaps being silently diverted to different local servers?
-- Jason

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Offline bpivk

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Where can I find the latest DAR installation instruction?
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2007, 03:05:38 PM »
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http://beta.free-eos.org/sme/SRPMS/dar-2.3.2-1.src.rpm

Don't use these because they are source rpm's and you won't need them. And cactus gave you the correct link.

Use dar-2.3.2-1.i386.rpm   and smeserver-dar2-0.0.1-3dmay.noarch.rpm   and next time listen to him and you'll be up and going in no time.  :)

Edit: The standard procedure for instalation of rpm's is using ssh (read the wiki about enabling it and use putty to connect to your server when you enable it) and then downloading a rpm [wget link_to_rpm] and installing with [yum install rpmname.rpm] and then removing the rpm [rm rpmname.rpm] finishing with a [signal-event post-upgrade] and [signal-event reboot].
"It should just work" if it doesn't report it. Thanks!

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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2007, 03:35:59 PM »
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http://beta.free-eos.org/sme/SRPMS/dar-2.3.2-1.src.rpm

Don't use these because they are source rpm's and you won't need them. And cactus gave you the correct link.
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Please, I think my links are correct and you don't have to write such things, but don't want to engage a troll.

I give two links : one for the rpm, one for the srpm (which I don't see in Darrel's repository). Nothing wrong for GPL.

The rpm included in the repository from cactus link is the same rpm, and I think is the one I made available to Darrell as you can see in rpm's specs.

Maybe there is another dar rpm made for SME 7, but I didn't see it and this is why I gave the source for the one I made.

Offline judgej

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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2007, 03:48:15 PM »
Hopefully this will help:

http://wiki.contribs.org/DAR2

I've put what I know into that contribs page. Please feel free to add additional links and notes as appropriate (including the source rpms, if they are of interest). Hopefully, if anyone notices the contrib being updated, then they can update the WIKI page. Would be nice if that could be automated in some way, perhaps setting an 'external watch page', if there is such a thing.

I know istallation of dar2 is much easier since SME Server 7.1, because I there were many more unsatisfied dependancies in 7.0. I can't remember what they all are, so cannot document them, but I've added a note.

I also have stated in that page that there is no yum server for this contrib, but I have a feeling I may be wrong there, because when I ran 'rpm -i' on the contribs, it downloaded some updates for the contrib from somewhere (unless it was just the local files, and I was reading it wrongly).

Dunno where the trolling is - not here so far as I can see. From my POV, I only want to close the gap between those who know what they are doing and where things are, and the likes of me who keep coming at this with fresh eyes and see everything spread out like a jar of peanut butter on a whole loaf of bread. Yeah, okay, wierd analogy...

-- Jason
-- Jason

Offline bpivk

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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2007, 07:46:40 PM »
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Please, I think my links are correct and you don't have to write such things, but don't want to engage a troll.

I didn't say that your link isn't correct but a normal user doesn't need a source rpm (srpm) he needs a rpm if he wants to install.
"It should just work" if it doesn't report it. Thanks!


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Where can I find the latest DAR installation instruction?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2007, 11:27:54 AM »
According to Darrel's post there are support files and an action for dar in Midnight Commander with his DAR2 installation.
Can anyone tell me how to open/view .dar files with MC?

regards,
jester.

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2007, 12:00:15 PM »
Ok, just found it out (dar-extension for mc) and put it in on the DAR2 wiki page for anyone who'd like to know.

regards,
jester.