Topic: Spamfilter seems to have stopped working!

[raem]

dave simmons

error: Failed dependencies:
         e-smith-spamassassin is needed by (installed) smeserver-support-1.6.0-39.el4.sme.noarch

Try
rpm -e --nodeps smeserver-spamassassin

[dave simmons]

OK Ray,

Used your command, and it worked.

I then continued the removal procedure as described in an earlier post, but:

The command rpm -e spamassassin then produces:

error: Failed dependencies:
         spamassassin >= 3.1.8 is needed by (installed) FuzzyOcr-3.5.1-3.el4.sme.noarch

should I try the nodeps option again, or are we just making the hole deeper?

I'm interested to keep trying, because I feel I'm learning something!

BTW.  I made a reply to your previous post about the log file, but you might not have seen it - it came on page 3 of this thread

[dave simmons]

Latest news - there are 3 spam mails in the junk mails box, so the spam filter is doing something.

It's just not spam scoring very well, because I've also received another copy of the classic 'Hello I'm tired today...' email which sa has caught in the past, but now they get through.

It seems therefore to be a question of spam scoring?

[brianr]

you can "try out" SA by piping the msg file through spamc, as follows

spamc < ~user/Maildir/cur/emailfilename

you have to "find" the email file first though (use mc search facility?).

See if spamc in command mode gives the same result, especially useful to try one that "ought" to be higher scored.

Just a thought

B.   

[CharlieBrady]

dave simmons

Try
rpm -e --nodeps smeserver-spamassassin

Ray, please don't try to diagnose problems in the forum. Direct people to the bug tracker, and help to diagnose issues in the bug tracker.

If "spamfilter seems to have stopped working", then clearly it's possible that there's a bug which needs to be fixed. Bug Tracker please.

Dave and newhopenet, if you even suspect that spam filtering is not working correctly, then please open a bug in the bug tracker, and report there exactly what you've seen which makes you have suspicions.

Thanks.

[dave simmons]

If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

Sound familiar Charlie Brady?

Everyone else who answered has been so helpful.  I don't know if it's a bug - it seems weird that so very few people are experiencing it if its a bug.  Or maybe less people are using SME than I thought? 

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with SME.  I've used it for probably 5 years or more now, and it's the first time it's done anything weird.  We didn't used to have spam filtering - it's funny how you only miss something when it's gone! 

Ray, Brian and any others, if you want to continue advising me, I'll follow.  I've got a working SME machine (my old server) running now, so I can experiment further with the problem machine, and I'm grateful for what I've already learned from you guys.

 I assume that we can continue posting here, as long as we don't break any rules over decency, swearing etc.

[Mjohnson]

Dave,

f you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem.

Sound familiar Charlie Brady?

Charlie used the word "please" three times and "thanks" once.  That was by far the nicest response I have ever seen from him.   I think we owe him a tip-of-the-hat at the very least.

Dave and newhopenet, if you even suspect that spam filtering is not working correctly, then please open a bug in the bug tracker, and report there exactly what you've seen which makes you have suspicions.

Charlie and the moderators have been diligent, consistent and patient with their bug-tracker nudges.  From my experience, the response and advice doled out via the bug tracker is even better than the "warm 'n fuzzies" you received here on the forum.  Give it a shot...these guys are really good.

MJ

[byte]

I assume that we can continue posting here, as long as we don't break any rules over decency, swearing etc.

No please open a bug as per Charlie's comment, this way the issue gets proper attention. Thanks.

[newhopenet]

OK -- will open a bug for such things in the future. 

However, my particular issue has been resolved. 

A friend of mine, who knows nothing about SME but has been a linux admin for several years told me to do this:

signal-event post-upgrade
signal-event reboot

I know I already did that after I upgraded.  I really did.  But, for whatever reason, in my particular case, doing that resolved my spamassassin problem -- all our mail is now being properly scored, tagged, and sorted again.  Weird. 

[CharlieBrady]

If you're not part of the solution ...

I guess SME server software just writes itself ...

Anyway, if *you* want to be part of the solution, please post details about your problem to the bug tracker.

If you just want your problem solved, and to hell with everyone else, then continue to waste time here - and leave the problem unsolved for everyone else.

[byte]

I know I already did that after I upgraded.  I really did.  But, for whatever reason, in my particular case, doing that resolved my spamassassin problem -- all our mail is now being properly scored, tagged, and sorted again.  Weird.

That's where a bug could be, depending on how you upgraded.

[dave simmons]

And if I open a bug when it's just something on my machine, all the tech-nerds will call me an idiot.

No thanks, I think I'll just scratch the machine, re-install, but just copy over the web pages and recreate the users, instead of restoring from backup.

Thanks again to the guys who really tried to help.

Bye.

[byte]

And if I open a bug when it's just something on my machine, all the tech-nerds will call me an idiot.

I've not seen no-one called an idiot, care to show evidence of such ?!

No thanks, I think I'll just scratch the machine, re-install, but just copy over the web pages and recreate the users, instead of restoring from backup.

Quite a lack attitude there...it's only the end users who can make _your_ open source project more stable than it already is!

Thanks again to the guys who really tried to help.

And don't forget to thank the people are gave you the software in the first place

[newhopenet]

For anyone else who's been following this thread -- I've filed my particular issue as bug report 3350.  http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3350

I noticed another existing bug report about a somewhat similar issue that was raised in this thread concerning a warning about no public key when upgrading from 7.1.3 to 7.2 -- This is an issue I experienced, and resolved it as described in the bug tracker report. That bug report is here:  http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3191

[thallanor]

I am experiencing the same problem here.  spamassassin worked great and then suddenly started marking spam with unusually low tags.  I created a bug report and hope that I filled out everything appropriately, as it is my first submission.