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Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL

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Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL
« on: October 04, 2007, 01:03:29 PM »
HI All,

We have these phones happily working with SARK/SAIL through their on-board SIP stacks (both locally and remotely).  If there's any interest in helping test this support we'll post the settings onto here/the docs site.


Kind Regards

S

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Re: Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2007, 01:22:24 AM »
Please do!  My Nokia N95 should be arriving anytime now! :-P

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Re: Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2007, 03:58:40 PM »
I have used an now rather "old" E61 as a client for the Selintra Asterisk RPM, for quite a while now, and it works pretty well. (I am configuring the Asterisk server manually because I use some small "personal specialities".)(I guess I have the Selintra Asterisk RPM but not the SARK/SAIL ?)

The sount quality is exelent. When the E61 works as sip client, I think it has bether sound quality than when it is running in GSM mode.

Negative:

1. When the E61 runns in SIP telephony mode, it eats a battery in a few hours. This mode cosumes a lot of energy. You can feel that the telephone gets hot.

2. The SIP protocoll is not much nat or firewall friendly, if you try to connect to your server at home you will wery often experience that it will not connect on that certain wireless network, due to nat problems.

What on the other hand works rather well is to connect to your own Asterisk server via 3G and then to transfer the datastream via GSM. Sound quality for this alternative is ok for the E61 and there is generally not problems to obtain a connection.

Negative about using 3G: Usually to expensive if you pay for volume of transfered datas.

One other negative about the E61: It is terrible difficult to configure and the user guide I downloaded from Nokia, it contained a lot of technical details but not much of how all these details should work togheter as a whole. I hope that newe Nokia models is a bit more user friendly to configure. (It can be done, but the configuration is rather "unlogical" so you have write it down somewhere.)

And then one other ting:

The IAX2 protocol is a lot more nat and firewall friendly. I have tested from my laptop and where I can not get an connection via SIP, I still can do it via IAX2. (And I am using UDP 53 as an alternative port for IAX2)

I think that Nokia still does not have an IAX2 client.

By the way the Selintra Asterisk RPM works exelent, exept for some firewall problems I'm working on. (Don't know if these problems is related to the Asterisk rpm, but it is the only mod I have done.)
« Last Edit: October 09, 2007, 04:05:53 PM by arne »
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Re: Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2007, 08:12:17 PM »
Hi Guys

Here are the asterisk settings (we just used "general SIP" as the IP device and modified its output)

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type=friend
username=NokiaE95
secret=XXXX
mailbox=8000
host=dynamic
qualify=3000
canreinvite=no
context=internal
callerid="NokiaE95" <8000>
pickupgroup=1
callgroup=1
disallow=all
allow=g729

Phone settings as follows...

Phone->Settings->Connection->SIP Settings

Profile Name => WhateverYouWant
Service Profile => IETF
Default Access Point => WhateverYouCalledYourAccessPoint
Public User name => sip:{SAIL extn}@your.public.sail.uri
Use Compression => No
Registration => When Needed
Use Security => No
Proxy Server =>
...Proxy Server address => sip.your.public.sail.uri
...Realm => asterisk
...User Name => {SAIL extn number}
...Password  => {SAIL extn password}
...Allow Loose Routing => yes
...Transport Type => UDP
...Port => 5060
Registrar Server => 
...Registrar Server address => sip.your.public.sail.uri
...Realm => asterisk
...User Name => {SAIL extn number}
...Password  => {SAIL extn password}
...Transport Type => UDP
...Port => 5060

Er...  That's it.

Save your settings.  Make sure you have defined your WLAN access point and can connect to it.  Go to Settings->Internet Tel.  on the phone.
This will bring up a list of known access points.  Click on the access point and the phone will start up the VoIP registration process.  If everything is OK it will tell you it has connected to the VoIP server.

To make a call, type in the phone number.  Instead of pressing the normal "phone off hook" button, press the centre "action" key.  The phone will give you a list of "Voice Call, Video Call, Internet Call".  Choose Internet call and you're in business.

If you really want to impress your techy friends you can now put the phone into "offline" mode (as far as GSM is concerned) by choosing the profile called "offline" from profiles.  Now, show that you can still make calls by demonstrating a call over the internet.  You will be the kewlest person in the cafe.

Oh, and one last thing.  If you are in the UK and you bought your N95 from Vodafone or Orange, then take it back, because they disable the sip settings on their N95s.

:-)

Kind Regards

S
« Last Edit: October 09, 2007, 08:16:44 PM by selintra »

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Re: Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2007, 11:59:28 AM »
My N80i works like a dream, but I keep seeing this in the log (that IP belongs to my N80i):
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-- Got SIP response 400 "Bad Request" back from 192.168.10.162It doesn't seem to cause any problems. Just curious if you have seen this as well.
Regards, Lloyd

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Re: Nokia E series and N series phones with SARK/SAIL
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2007, 12:54:07 PM »
Yeah,

We see it too.  We also see it from the Siemens C460 and S450 DECT units.  They are clearly asking for something that Asterisk doesn't support.  Haven't had time to do a SIP trace to check exactly what it is because it seems rather benign (at least we haven't heard anything go bang!).

Best

S