Topic: SERVER CONECTED TO WAN USING IPoA- STATIC IP Address

[zatnikatel]

Why should a full bridge solution work bether than a semi bridge solution for that actual case
because it is not either PPPOE or PPPOA it is IPoA with a static IP Address it does not use a password or a username so semi bridge will not work in the modem setup all you type in is the Ip Address netmask and gateway and you are on the internet there is no user name or password it is Authenticated via your Ip Address and your phone line so a semi bridge wont work either you have the modem router do it all or do a full bridge and setup SME with the ip address gateway and netmask from the ISP so the router only moves packets between the SME and the ISP
i have setup a couple of IPoA connection a while ago
hope what i have said makes sence Arne
some times i don't explain my self well i would not make a good teacher

[arne]

Exuse me - So I was wrong because I missred IPoA as PPPoA (And something very familiar during the years, and yes, I use user acount and password.)

But still and anyhow. The ISP provider will in this case for sure support a setup for Windows XP.

If this Windows configuration is clarified and documented into the smallest detail, should it be any problem to set up the SME server to do exactely the same logon, ant to receive the IP at the external NIC, in the same way as the Windows machine does it ?

And if so - shouldn't this be the solution to it all ?

By the way some times the ISP modify the modems in such a way that a more detailed knowledge of the modem itself will not help. In my case I received a PPPoA modem with a wizard to set up a PPPaA bridge. This function were blocked by the ISP in such a way that even a firmware replacement did not help. (So I had to replace the box with an other one.)

If there is a Windows setup, as supplied by the ISP, that will be running and that can be tested, shouldn't it then be quite stright forward procedure to transfer this over to the SME server/gateway ?

[zatnikatel]

I was not being judgemental on what you said sorry if i came over being rude i did not mean it that way sorry Arne

what oscartenerife was doing is letting the router do all the work in windows then when he moved to SME he put it in to bridge mode
what i think he should do is put the modem in to bridge mode and test the setting on windows and see if it works then transfer the setting over to SME but he was doing one way in windows then another way on Linux
IPoA is much better than PPPoE or PPPoA as you don't need a user name or password so no problem with a radius servers to Authenticate on
so your ISP could be having problems with Authenticating and you would still be ok less drops as well better system but most ISP charge extra for a static ip address don't ak me why should be the same price 

[oscartenerife]

Guys:

Let me first apologize for this time with no answer, I was out of home in a place with no Internet resources.
So, I´ve caught these answers today.
I agree, there is no chance to access the bridge working in a full bridge mode.
Please have in mind  that finally mi ISP provider told me that my Ip protocol isn´t (IS NOT) IpoA, it is RFC 1483 with LLC encapsulation.
Looking to my 504 T configuration, there is a option saying that the connection type, may be RFC 1483 routed LLC or RFC 1483 Bridged LLC.
Could any of you tell me what´s the difference between these two modes.
Perhaps ¿does it mean RFC 1483 LLC Bridged is the one that I should select to resolve Ip transactions with my ISP provider at the router and then pass it through SME server?, without being routed to the ISP.
In this case, ¿how SME setup should be carried out?.
I still haven´t the opportunity to run tracert (by the way sorry for my ignorance regarding this , and thank´s to è[nt]e to clarify it for me).
I´ll keep you posted after running tracert.

Looking forward to ear from you.

Oscar

[oscartenerife]

zanktel, arne:

I´back again after the post I did just a few minutes ago.
Regarding this post from zanktel
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I was not being judgemental on what you said sorry if i came over being rude i did not mean it that way sorry Arne

what oscartenerife was doing is letting the router do all the work in windows then when he moved to SME he put it in to bridge mode
what i think he should do is put the modem in to bridge mode and test the setting on windows and see if it works then transfer the setting over to SME but he was doing one way in windows then another way on Linux
IPoA is much better than PPPoE or PPPoA as you don't need a user name or password so no problem with a radius servers to Authenticate on
so your ISP could be having problems with Authenticating and you would still be ok less drops as well better system but most ISP charge extra for a static ip address don't ak me why should be the same price 

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zanktel is absolutely right, I´m doing one thing on XP and then another in SME.
I don´t know how to set up windows XP to work with the 504T working as a bridge.
In other words, How do I set up TCP/IP inmy PC using windows XP to check if the DL 504 work configured as a bridge in windows XP.
Again, my protocol is RFC 1483 LLC and not IpoA. My mistake., because the original router I had was a comtrend 500 and it can only work in IPoA.
Exactly like you said if I can do that we will know that the bridge really works.

Thank´s

Oscar

[zatnikatel]

just put the modem in to bridge mode only then use the information that you have from your ISP and put those details in to windows network setup on the lan card then all the modem router will do is pass packets of info should do the trick do you also have the DNS server from you ISP