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fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)

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fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« on: April 25, 2008, 04:04:57 AM »
Hi there. I have within the last hour downloaded sme server. I have had some experience with linux I am no guru but can find my way around - I am still experimenting and learning.

When I first setup SME I used the web interface http://<myserver>:/server-manager
and came to the email page. I want to simply setup a way of retrieving pop3 emails from an isp's
server and my public domain hosts servers and distribute those mails to the relevent user accounts

I am a little bit confused by the settings under "ETRN or multi-drop settings"
and just need a simple method of having a user account per email address then retrieving the email from the isp to the server and then- from my windows box - having outlook retrieve the mail from the local server.

Please can anyone help me

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2008, 04:12:52 AM »
This may help.

http://www.schirrms.net/sme/SMEFetchMail.php

Works well for me.
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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2008, 04:14:46 AM »
Oh excellent! Thank you very much ! It looks like the information I need
Very quick reply much appreciated !

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2008, 04:21:39 AM »
I am a little bit confused by the settings under "ETRN or multi-drop settings"
and just need a simple method of having a user account per email address then retrieving the email from the isp to the server and then- from my windows box - having outlook retrieve the mail from the local server.

If you are going to continue to have mailboxes per user stored at your ISP, then it will be simpler to just continue to have outlook retrieve the mail directly from the ISP.

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2008, 11:51:53 AM »
Thanks for the reply !
I think it would, of course, be much easier to do that, however I think I would prefer- rather than have the mails pulled direct from the isp'server by outlook and rather than face almost insurmountable difficulty setting up fetchmail with SME Server I will go back to using ClarkConnect.

Thanks for the advice, pity about that mail thing - maybe you guys can fix it one day!
I will pop back in from time to time - just to see how you are getting on !

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2008, 12:09:38 PM »


Thanks for the advice, pity about that mail thing - maybe you guys can fix it one day!


What was wrong with the contrib at the link I posted above?

There are two people here. Both have an ISP based email address. They both also have an SME based email address.

Every 15min the ISP is checked and mail is brought down to the respective user on SME.

All mail clients connect only to the SME.



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William

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2008, 12:11:18 PM »
Thanks for the reply !
I think it would, of course, be much easier to do that, however I think I would prefer- rather than have the mails pulled direct from the isp'server by outlook and rather than face almost insurmountable difficulty setting up fetchmail with SME Server I will go back to using ClarkConnect.

Thanks for the advice, pity about that mail thing - maybe you guys can fix it one day!
I will pop back in from time to time - just to see how you are getting on !

Using the smeserver-fetchmail contrib should not be that hard to setup the pop3 retrieval per user AFAIK, have you tried already? Where did you get stuck? Stating that it is unsurmountable without showing proof of trying is not really fair.
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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2008, 01:07:00 PM »
Sorry - that was just my attempt at droll humour I was up till 5am and had to be awake at 9am -
The setup for the formMagick didnt work - I kept getting a error which said I needed perl-CGI-i18nlang or something like that and I tried to install that perl pack but it wasnt having it  - I am running the thing on a dell poweredge 600sc  so its not for lack of hardware

The utf fetchmail rpm loaded up alright and installed but not form magic and I was really hoping for a quick success with this stuff

Hopefully I can just edit the fetchmail config files or setup some other fetchmail gui

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2008, 01:34:48 PM »

I didn't think the additional formMagick stuff was currently needed.

I would say...

Install SMEserver 7.3

Update it with yum update

Do the commands that yum gives you at the end.

Then wget http://www.schirrms.net/files/smeserver-fetchmail-utf8-1.3.5-02.noarch.rpm

followed by

yum localinstall smeserver-fetchmail-utf8-1.3.5-02.noarch.rpm

Repeat the commands that yum gives you at the end.

Then in server manager, go to Mail retrieval under Collaboration in the left-hand menu.



« Last Edit: April 25, 2008, 01:44:38 PM by william_syd »
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William

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2008, 02:17:44 PM »
Thanks for that - I will let you know how it goes - I will do that right now actually - thank you very much for helping !

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2008, 02:23:17 PM »
OK - Now that's worked ! hahahah thanks very much - right OK now I am in a position to experiment with this stuff -

thanks a lot !!!!!


<edited in later>

Yeah this is exactly what I wanted -

REALLY I MEAN IT - THANK YOU !!!
« Last Edit: April 25, 2008, 02:28:27 PM by joyrider »

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2008, 02:40:36 PM »
yum localinstall smeserver-fetchmail-utf8-1.3.5-02.noarch.rpm
I would preffer installing smeserver-fetchmail from the SME Contribs repository, it is the UTF8 encoded version as well.
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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2008, 02:49:24 PM »
sorry to be a pain but now I have mail working but the instructions at
http://www.schirrms.net/sme/SMEFetchMail.php
 dont work out and what I am trying to achieve now is to schedule the mail every two minutes for each user.

schirrms.net says:

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Note : you cannot change the time schedule of fetchmail here. This is because fetchmail is still sharing some parts with the standard SME Fetchmail system.
If the standard schedule (every 15 minutes) doesn't suit your needs, in server manager, go on Configuration -> E-Mail and choose new schedule rules (at the bottom of the page).
But there is a trick : If your server E-mail retrieval mode (at the top of the same page) is set as Standard (SMTP), you cannot save the change !
In this case just select ETRN (SMTP with client request), do your schedule change, and click 'Save'.
Then go again in the page, select back Standard (SMTP), and save again.

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2008, 02:56:48 PM »
You can not, 5 minutes is the minimum due to the SME Server architecture.
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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2008, 03:40:23 PM »
I would preffer installing smeserver-fetchmail from the SME Contribs repository, it is the UTF8 encoded version as well.

It must have sneaked in while I wasn't looking.

Regards,
William

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