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fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)

Offline joyrider

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2008, 05:05:43 PM »
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I don't understand the great concern about getting mail immediately, when they tolerate 2 hour power fails, during which time they receive no mail at all. The attitude seems imbalanced.
They dont tollerate it they go to somewhere they can use pop3 and get their mail on another machine maybe pull it in off a mobile phone or plug in to some wireless network outside the affected zone.

Thats the point they want their mail instantly even under crisis conditions and for 6 people pop3 is ideal smtp isnt

look with an isp that has at least 8 million business customers 6 people using pop3 isnt a big challenge
« Last Edit: April 27, 2008, 05:07:36 PM by joyrider »

Offline CharlieBrady

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2008, 03:56:43 PM »
They dont tollerate it they go to somewhere they can use pop3 and get their mail on another machine maybe pull it in off a mobile phone or plug in to some wireless network outside the affected zone.

If you use fetchmail, they won't be able to do that. Their mail will have been moved from their ISP's mail server to the SME server which is down.

As I've said repeatedly - if their mail must be delivered to the ISP rather than your SME server, just configure their POP3 (or preferably IMAP) clients to directly access the mailbox at the ISP.

Alternatively, if you always know better than us, just do what you know to be best and leave us alone. :-)

Offline joyrider

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2008, 04:02:01 PM »
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If you use fetchmail, they won't be able to do that. Their mail will have been moved from their ISP's mail server to the SME server which is down.
Not if you dont want to - anyone can just choose to leave it on the server - infact that's the whole point - it means having a backup and easier management and in the event of a failure the mail is on the isp server still

and as for leaving you alone - it wasnt me that asked for a lecture on email ethics and internet politicsI just wanted to know how to achieve getting the mail every 2 minutes

It is you that took the subject off topic but I wont stand for having my ethics bashed without retaliation -
If you cant take as good as you get stop trying to tell me that my administration is wrong - it isnt - its just you dont have to deal with users on a daily basis probably

PS you are beginning to remind me of the mayor of tuttle city
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127
 :-D :lol:
read the email exchange
« Last Edit: April 28, 2008, 04:10:05 PM by joyrider »

Offline cactus

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2008, 04:48:52 PM »
PS you are beginning to remind me of the mayor of tuttle city
http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127
 :-D :lol:
read the email exchange
I doubt if you are assigning the roles of the participants in that story to the proper persons action in this thread... do you also have 22 years of computer experience? :-D

I am not new to network administration and have a lot of experience in everything from working in mainframe environments to doing what I love now which is looking after small companies.

Like Charlie already stated it is a very high burden to have individual users query a server every two minutes. On top of that it is a bit contra dictionary IMHO to rely on mail coming in at the same time as it is send while on the other hand allowing power failures and consequently shutdown of servers.

If e-mail is that mission critical I think you need to have them to reconsider their infrastructure architecture and investments.

« Last Edit: April 28, 2008, 04:50:27 PM by cactus »
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Offline joyrider

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Re: fetchmail and pop3 question (I am a noob)
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2008, 04:56:42 PM »
Yeah well just to put an end to this:

They are moving to a better office complex in January Next year
where they will take on more staff and will invest in better infrastructure and supply a budget more appropriate to a company on its feet rather than the startup it was two years ago.

Their complaints are not with my management of their systems but with the supply of services such as electricity  etc

Say goodbye to the Mayor off Tuttle for me - I must go now as I decided to go back to Suse Enterprise !! He resigned BTW -- see ya