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Offline churchtech

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Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« on: February 04, 2009, 06:09:09 PM »
Hello all,

I have noticed several messages lately about installing/migrating to Joomla 1.5.x but none that talk about the Joomla.org requirements. I have been running several small sites on Joomla 1.0.12 (out-dated, I know) installed via the Joomla contrib that was available early last year. I would like to migrate to Joomla 1.5.x but I see from the Joomla site (http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/technical-requirements.html):
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*Do not use PHP 4.3.9, 4.4.2 or 5.0.4. These releases have known bugs that will interfere with installation. Zend Optimizer 2.5.10 for PHP 4.4.x also has serious bugs and you should ask your host to upgrade to a newer version.

Are those who are running 1.5.x using the PHP5-cgi contrib(http://wiki.contribs.org/PHP5) in order to meet the Joomla requirements or are things installing/running fine under PHP 4.3.9 (my currently listed version)?

After seeing that the Joomla Contrib (http://wiki.contribs.org/Joomla) was updated to 1.5, I located most of the updated components, modules, and mambots that I will need for the migration. However, I don't have experience with the PHP5-cgi setup and I would like to hear from others about how their installs are running.

Regards,
Aaron
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Offline Franco

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 07:34:16 PM »
Are those who are running 1.5.x using the PHP5-cgi contrib(http://wiki.contribs.org/PHP5) in order to meet the Joomla requirements or are things installing/running fine under PHP 4.3.9 (my currently listed version)?
Hi, this is my case for both Joomla and Roundcube. I have not installed via the contrib, but in a ibay.
The same goes for roundcube.

Best,

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 09:10:04 PM »
Hello all,

I have noticed several messages lately about installing/migrating to Joomla 1.5.x but none that talk about the Joomla.org requirements. I have been running several small sites on Joomla 1.0.12 (out-dated, I know) installed via the Joomla contrib that was available early last year. I would like to migrate to Joomla 1.5.x but I see from the Joomla site (http://www.joomla.org/about-joomla/technical-requirements.html):

Centos (Redhat) will often pull patches into packages like this that provide fixes for bugs/issues, while maintaining the package base version number.   I'm not sure if this is the case here with the Centos PHP 4.3.9 package, but I would suspect that it is if there were known bugs in this release.

In other words, you might have the php 4.3.9 package installed, but in all practicality are using a version of php that is much further along than php 4.3.9 was, as released by the php folks.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2009, 09:12:11 PM by gzartman »
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Offline cactus

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 10:52:26 PM »
In other words, you might have the php 4.3.9 package installed, but in all practicality are using a version of php that is much further along than php 4.3.9 was, as released by the php folks.
I always thought only security updates where back-ported...
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Offline gzartman

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 11:58:19 PM »
I always thought only security updates where back-ported...

I think they backport all sorts of things.  I can't imagine Redhat would knowingly just leave a buggy version of PHP on RHEL 4.x until they end of life it in, what, 2012-13. 

I remember having a conversation with Charlie some time back about this and he didn't feel RH would ever officially put PHP 5 on RHEL 4.x.
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Offline David Harper

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 11:48:33 AM »
RHEL 4 is about to enter stage 3 of its production lifecycle, which covers security only. Up until late this year there will be some "urgent" bug fixes backported:

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During the Production 2 life cycle phase, at a minimum, qualified security errata of important or critical impact, as well as, urgent priority bug-fix errata may be released independent of minor releases.

http://www.redhat.com/security/updates/errata/

The whole point of a product like RHEL is NOT changing things - so customers have a stable platform for a decent amount of time.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2009, 11:50:32 AM by David Harper »

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2009, 12:52:19 PM »
Are those who are running 1.5.x using the PHP5-cgi contrib(http://wiki.contribs.org/PHP5) in order to meet the Joomla requirements or are things installing/running fine under PHP 4.3.9 (my currently listed version)?

Using PHP 4.3.9 and it's fine (J1.5.4 thru J1.5.9)

Contrary to popular belief and continuous recommendations in the forum: do not install any PHP app (joomla, roundcube, etc) into an IBAY.

Offline Franco

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Re: Joomla 1.5.x and minimum requirements.
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2009, 01:17:39 PM »
Using PHP 4.3.9 and it's fine (J1.5.4 thru J1.5.9)

Contrary to popular belief and continuous recommendations in the forum: do not install any PHP app (joomla, roundcube, etc) into an IBAY.
May I know why not?