Topic: Enableing Procmail after install ??

[steve288]

Thanks Mary for your thoughts. There are a lot of things to learn your right. Unfortunately Wiki's however are not always right and certainly dont contain all the information that one needs or a complete discussion on. Of course they are maintained by the "kindness of strangers ". We are thankfull for that. But they dont contain exhaustive information on the topic and sometimes are wrong, or perhaps better to say things change that make them wrong. And it seems I always want to do things that they are not always specific on. We try to use the newsgroups to flesh out some of these differences. Despite a comment that says x it does not always mean that xx is not true unless specifically mentioned. I think we all like Linux because of its versatility and at times thinking outside the MS box.

Thank you for clarifying what lancelott2 meant. Despite his best efforts I did not understand what he meant. I suppose my comments belie what I do know, but I have never used Thunderbird or heard of it. Generally we use Exchange which I can't nor want to change. The last time I used a Linux mail reader (other than Pine) I think it was Netscape on Redhat. (does Netscape even exist now other than Mozilla?)

thank you again for your comments Mary,

I will be posting my problems with Horde on another post because well Its a different issue and I want to make it easier for people who are looking for solutions, to specific issues easier to find them rather than have to read about the previous issues which are un related. All software has its Nuances despite developers best efforts to make them straight forward. Perhaps im a dolt, when I worked in a previous company where we developed hardware and software there was a sign in one of the hardware engineers offices. It said "If you make is so easy that an idiot can use it, they probably will." perhaps Im that person I dont know.

Regards

[janet]

steve288

Your knowledge is the issue, not the accuracy of the wiki. You can google for many things also eg Thunderbird
http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/all.html

[steve288]

Thanks Mary for your thoughts. There are a lot of things to learn your right. Unfortunately Wiki's however are not always right and certainly dont contain all the information that one needs or a complete discussion on. Of course they are maintained by the "kindness of strangers ". We are thankfull for that. But they dont contain exhaustive information on the topic and sometimes are wrong, or perhaps better to say things change that make them wrong. And it seems I always want to do things that they are not always specific on. We try to use the newsgroups to flesh out some of these differences. Despite a comment that says x it does not always mean that xx is not true unless specifically mentioned. I think we all like Linux because of its versatility and at times thinking outside the MS box.

Thank you for clarifying what lancelott2 meant. Despite his best efforts I did not understand what he meant. I suppose my comments belie what I do know, but I have never used Thunderbird or heard of it. Generally we use Exchange which I can't nor want to change. The last time I used a Linux mail reader (other than Pine) I think it was Netscape on Redhat. (does Netscape even exist now other than Mozilla?)

Thank you again for your comments Mary,

I will be posting my problems with Horde on another post because well Its a different issue and I want to make it easier for people who are looking for solutions, to specific issues easier to find them rather than have to read about the previous issues which are un related. All software has its Nuances despite developers best efforts to make them straight forward. Perhaps im a dolt, when I worked in a previous company where we developed hardware and software there was a sign in one of the hardware engineers offices. It said "If you make is so easy that an idiot can use it, they probably will." perhaps Im that person I dont know.

Regards

[mercyh]

Steve288,

But they dont contain exhaustive information on the topic and sometimes are wrong, or perhaps better to say things change that make them wrong.

Please qualify what you find incorrect or incomplete. There are many of us here with varied level of knowledge that contribute to the Wiki. Most Wiki entries begin as threads on the forums and end up in the wiki as more permanent entries. The Wiki is review by all (including you) so please let us know what needs to be changed.

[steve288]

Thanks for asking Mercyh.

Indeed this is what I did do and I hope and wish others would too.

I compliment everyone on their efforts, but things are not always noticed by us lowly users or and by the Doc Team.  When I pointed out something that did not work for me in a wiki
(seem my comment)
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,37115.msg207182.html#msg207182

Snoble, acknowledged it and said that he would fix it. I thank him and all those who work for the huge salary of nothing for the effort they put in. As a bonus they get sometimes-thoughtless negative comments.  This is not me I hope.

I think my point is that because of the voluntary nature of this software,  things do creep in and information is not always accurate because of changes and differing users experiences.  I know that effort is made to correct this.  Sometimes however you try to ask questions because the wiki ‘s are indeed “threads on the forums and end up in the wiki as more permanent “.  And some stuff just needs fleshing out. Indeed I once tried to join the so that I could contribute but for some reason the  process  didn’t work for me and I gave up. This was some time ago.
I guess sometimes however I really dont know what contributions would be apreciated by the docs team. I like to have things spelled out. I dont know if my aproach is what is needed. Here in my organization I am known as the document guy. I do howto's on things to make it easier for me, other i.t. staff and end users to do stuff, its the way I dont forget.  And I apreciate it when I find things this way.

As you have said we are all at different learning points, and we all come from different backgrounds. I think we are trying to develop in our knowledge and hopefully share it with others so they can grow too.

I think we should consider this conversation as closed as it has seriously veered off course.

With Respect

[cactus]

Indeed I once tried to join the so that I could contribute but for some reason the  process  didn’t work for me and I gave up. This was some time ago.

The procedure has been revised and simplified so feel free to try again: http://wiki.contribs.org/Help:Contents

[axessit]

If you want to have SME use procmail to create some rules, then make SME the default mail server and get users to get their mail from there, use Horde or some other programme like Zafara if you want an MS Outlook look-alike. If you want to use Exchange, then set the rules up in Exchange. Users can use individual rules to sort mail. They can be either set up on the MS Outlook client or Exchange web interface. But, keep all mail processing to one mail server. You'll confuse others who may have to follow....

I use the userpanel contrib which allows you to access the procmail rules. They're pretty easy to set up for an end user.