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Offline ejay69

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Email and Domains
« on: March 24, 2009, 09:35:28 AM »
Hi! & I hope someone could help

I have set up an SME Server with a primary domain pem.tld and then I created subdomains using server manager which are up.pem.tld, au.pem.tld, co.pem.tld and ui.pem.tld. Here are now my problems

1. I want users for each subdomain to send/receive their emails on their subdomain only because as of
   now when I send mail to aaquino@up.pem.tld it is equivalent to aaquino@pem.tld.

2. I can't create same username for two subdomains ex. aaquino@up.pem.tld and aaquino@au.pem.tld,
    is this by design?

I will be using SME Server for more or less a thousand users...

Thank you.

Offline Stefano

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 09:49:13 AM »
Hi! & I hope someone could help

hi, welcome to this forum
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I have set up an SME Server with a primary domain pem.tld and then I created subdomains using server manager which are up.pem.tld, au.pem.tld, co.pem.tld and ui.pem.tld. Here are now my problems

1. I want users for each subdomain to send/receive their emails on their subdomain only because as of
   now when I send mail to aaquino@up.pem.tld it is equivalent to aaquino@pem.tld.

2. I can't create same username for two subdomains ex. aaquino@up.pem.tld and aaquino@au.pem.tld,
    is this by design?

I will be using SME Server for more or less a thousand users...

Thank you.

yes.. it's by design.

please take a little time to read the documentation.. in your case, you should look for pseudonyms..
you should not create users like aaquino, but like user1, user2 and so on then create the right pseudonymn.

HTH
Ciao
Stefano

Offline ejay69

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 10:03:57 AM »
First of all thanks for the prompt reply


1. I want users for each subdomain to send/receive their emails on their subdomain only because as of
   now when I send mail to aaquino@up.pem.tld it is equivalent to aaquino@pem.tld.

What about problem #1 I really want to (and my boss want to) hide the top domain name to the users. Can
you guide me on the track I have to take to be able to do this.

Thanks again

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 10:11:52 AM »
ejay69

You may also want to have a look here:

http://www.dungog.net/wiki/Main_Page

http://www.dungog.net/wiki/Dungog-domains

These might help as well

Regards,

Tib

Offline janet

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 11:35:31 AM »
ejay69

You asked a question, and you were advised to read the documentation, particularly the pseudonyms section.
Are you not willing to accept the answers given ?
If not, then do not bother to ask the question in the first place !

See
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Chapter9

also see
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:FAQ#User_accounts
which is essentially a rehash of the manual text but put in the FAQ

I'm sure it says this in the docs, but you will need to change the default sending domain in webmail, if using that.
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Offline ejay69

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 02:58:49 PM »
ejay69

You asked a question, and you were advised to read the documentation, particularly the pseudonyms section.
Are you not willing to accept the answers given ?
If not, then do not bother to ask the question in the first place !

:( Oh my... are all the people here quite that stern like you? FYI I still have
digest what was suggested here, remember I am a newbie, a linux newbie even and besides It has taken me time to commute in order to go home. Yes! I have to accept the answer, I don't have any choice don't I SME Server
Gurus!

See
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Chapter9

also see
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:FAQ#User_accounts
which is essentially a rehash of the manual text but put in the FAQ

I'm sure it says this in the docs, but you will need to change the default sending domain in webmail, if using that.

Thanks for this tip! :) will the sending domain can defaulted also on Outlook
and other mail clients?

Offline janet

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 03:36:07 PM »
ejay69

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will the sending domain can defaulted also on Outlook
and other mail clients?

The sending domain/senders email address is whatever you set it to be, in ANY email client.
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Offline ejay69

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 04:17:22 PM »
Thanks mary

The sending domain/senders email address is whatever you set it to be, in ANY email client.

Oh yes... dumb me... what I am thinking is that is there any ways for this to
be done automatically instead of instructing each user to do this?

Offline ejay69

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 04:19:05 PM »
and is Dungog-email open source or to i have to purchase license to
be able to install this...

Offline Stefano

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 04:30:59 PM »
ejay69:
could you please use the standard quote tag? otherwise it's hard to understand your posts.

thank you
ciao
Stefano

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2009, 12:08:34 AM »
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is Dungog-email open source or to i have to purchase license to
be able to install this...

Like all of us, snoble has to eat 8)

So Dungog-email is a commerically licensed product. There are a lot of options for purchase, which are described here. If you are a consultant who controls a lot of servers, then the Professional license is great value, as it gives you carte blanche to install any Dungog software on any machine you administer.

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2009, 12:55:33 AM »
What about problem #1 I really want to (and my boss want to) hide the top domain name to the users. Can you guide me on the track I have to take to be able to do this.

They have to:

1. configure their email program to use user@up.pem.tld.

2. tell their friends to send email to user@up.pem.tld.

3. don't tell friends to send email to user@pem.tld.

Offline ejay69

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 01:11:52 AM »
They have to:

1. configure their email program to use user@up.pem.tld.

2. tell their friends to send email to user@up.pem.tld.

3. don't tell friends to send email to user@pem.tld.

Hi! thanks ... but I don't think your suggestion would work first of all I talking here of multi-location
so it will be impossible for me to configure individual email programs. The don't tell would not work coz
eventually they would be able to discover that they can. My scenario is a centralized server for easier
admin. I could settle with my current setup right now if only the senders address (with subdomain name)
sticks because as I have seen mail programs and the webmail maintains user@parentdomain as senders
address. Is there a way force sender address to stick? via qmail perhaps?

Thanks again for the very responsive community that you have here right now!

Offline janet

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Re: Email and Domains
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2009, 03:20:29 AM »
ejay69

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...as I have seen mail programs and the webmail maintains user@parentdomain as senders address.

That is correct for webmail, as webmail is an application running on the server and does get default information about the "main" domain.

Not so for email clients. Every email client I have ever setup requires manual input of the senders/return email address.
You or the end user at some stage must configure the email client manually, and it is at that stage you only tell them about using the domain name that you require them to use.

As far as the centralised webmail is concerned, then you will need to login as each user unitially and configure their defaults for the domain you require them to appear to be sending from. This is explained in the documentation you were given links to.

Which part of the above do you not understand ?

The issue as I see it, is how users set up their email clients, not how sme server is setup (apart from issues with webmail client defaults).
If you have control over the end users workstations, then you can tailor the Default User profile to dish out the correct default settings in your email client of choice. Your situation does not sound like you have that degree of control though.

The other "radical" workaround answer, is to only host one domain on one sme server, and that was also mentioned in the documentation.
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