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RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?

Offline dunni

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RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« on: April 03, 2009, 09:00:09 PM »
Hi

I was investigating some emails from a colleague that didn't arrive and discovered that he'd been blacklisted in uribl.com.  On further investigation, I discovered that my SMESERVER had quite aggressive settings for RHSBL and DNSBL, even though the doc I found (http://wiki.contribs.org/Updating_from_SME_7.1.x_or_earlier) indicated that they were off by default, and I certainly don't recall turning them on.

I'm a lazy guy and prefer to do everything though the GUI interface.  There's no chance that I'll take the recommended route and "check qpsmtpd logs at regular intervals to assess the impact of your selection". 

Are these things on by default?

Is there really no way to change them through the GUI?

Online Stefano

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2009, 09:47:37 PM »
I'm a lazy guy and prefer to do everything though the GUI interface.
There's no chance that I'll take the recommended route and "check qpsmtpd logs at regular intervals to assess the impact of your selection".

that's a bad thing.. laziness is always a bad thing :)

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Are these things on by default?

you should always read the release announcement..
btw, if you fell something's wrong, open a bug, thank you
 
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Is there really no way to change them through the GUI?

no.. but you can:
- pay someone to code the web panel for you
- code it yourself
- search the forums for an alternative.. hint: you can whitelist some address/domains and no, I'm not talking about Spamassassin whitelist :-)

HTH
Ciao
Stefano

Offline CharlieBrady

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2009, 10:54:07 PM »
that's a bad thing.. laziness is always a bad thing :)

According to Larry Wall (of perl fame) laziness is one of "the three great virtues of a programmer'. Another is hubris. I forget the third - perhaps it is forgetfulness :-)


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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2009, 10:55:24 PM »

Online Stefano

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2009, 11:08:55 PM »
According to Larry Wall (of perl fame) laziness is one of "the three great virtues of a programmer'. Another is hubris. I forget the third - perhaps it is forgetfulness :-)

well.. in this case is a bad thing ;-)
ciao
Stefano

Offline dunni

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 01:35:43 AM »
that's a bad thing.. laziness is always a bad thing :)

you should always read the release announcement..
btw, if you fell something's wrong, open a bug, thank you
I have just re-read the release announcements for 7.3 and 7.4 and don't see anything.  But it's possible that I changed it myself (or someone else here changed it).  That's why I'm asking the question.  I wouldn't want to report it as a bug only to be told that I got my facts wrong.  thank you

no.. but you can:
- pay someone to code the web panel for you
- code it yourself
- search the forums for an alternative.. hint: you can whitelist some address/domains and no, I'm not talking about Spamassassin whitelist :-)

HTH
Not a lot - I'm really none the wiser.  I have contributed cash in the past, and I really don't have time to code it myself.  Perhaps I used the wrong search words, but I didn't find anything useful in the forum.  I don't think domain whitelists are what is needed.

Offline mdo

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 02:29:52 AM »
There were changes for DNSBL and RHSBL from SME 7.1 to 7.2 apparently:

http://wiki.contribs.org/Updating_to_SME_7.2#RHSBL_Servers
http://wiki.contribs.org/Updating_to_SME_7.2#DNSBL_Servers

To check what you currently use you have to do (on the command line):

config show qpsmtpd

If you want to make changes, the above two Wiki documents show how to do so.
Hope that helps.
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Offline janet

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 02:55:20 AM »
dunni

A default install of sme does not enable RHSBL and DNSBL & never did.
Same with spam filtering and virus scanning, ssh access remote access, all disabled by default.
A popular spam filtering add on may have enabled them, or you forgot.

Note that aggressive lists are now the default set in the database, but the functions are disabled by default.
There are simple commands to change the lists being used, see the FAQ.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2009, 03:03:37 AM by mary »
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Offline dunni

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Re: RHSBL and DNSBL on by default?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 11:07:29 AM »
Thanks for your help everyone