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550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN

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550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« on: May 01, 2009, 12:49:57 AM »
sme server 7.4
A few users complain that people that used to be able to e-mail them can't.

I requested one of the returned messages as follows:

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From:   System Administrator
Sent:   Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:53 PM
To:     Judy Borgerson
Cc:     'kevin@theirdomain.com'
Subject:        Undeliverable: email

Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.

Subject:  FW: email
Sent:     4/30/2009 3:53 PM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

'kevin@theirdomain.com' on 4/30/2009 3:53 PM
550 5.1.1 <kevin@theirdomain.com>... User unknown
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But he (they exist)
Any idea what we can do to solve the problem?

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 02:07:03 AM »
'kevin@theirdomain.com' on 4/30/2009 3:53 PM
550 5.1.1 <kevin@theirdomain.com>... User unknown
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'User unknown' is not an SME server message. The sender's mail server attempted to deliver that message to a non-SME server, which didn't accept it.

Check your DNS. If you have a backup MX server for your domain, remove it.

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2009, 05:24:15 PM »
this issue continues on for us, with more and more vendors unable to e-mail us.
I contacted easydns about removing the backup mx, this was their response:

you could always remove "smtp2.easydns.com" from your MX records within the DNS settings
for your domain name, yet if your mailserver goes offline, you would not have the added benefit of a backup mailspooling server
for your domain's email.

thanks in advance for any further help.

Offline mike_mattos

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2009, 08:02:16 PM »
this typically happens when ISP's increase their security.  You may be able to send to Bell but not Rogers.  We lost the ability to email FIDO but could email ROGERS , the parent company of fido!

Solution was to tell SME to relay all email via my ISP (server manager - email -change email delivery settings-Address of Internet provider's mail server )

It will always slow your mail down a wee bit, and when your ISP has email problems, a lot, but it will resolve a lot of security issues
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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2009, 08:15:47 PM »
Solution was to tell SME to relay all email via my ISP (server manager - email -change email delivery settings-Address of Internet provider's mail server )

dilligaf is not reporting a problem with being unable to send mail. He's reporting a problem of outside users not being able to send mail to his server.

dilligaf's problem has nothing to do with SME server. It is some misconfiguration outside of SME server. Because he hasn't shown the real domain name, and hasn't shown the IP address of the server which generated the bounce message, nobody else can help him to investigate the root cause.

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2009, 08:35:33 PM »
oops!  the some work some don't is usually outgoing, got confused by the substitution of names!

If you are using easydns, you should be careful that you don't add mail.mydomain.com and neglect to update it !

Better to wildcard *.mydomain.com as an alias or just use mydomain.com as the mailserver

Also,  the backup mail service at Easydns seems to work if your server is off line, unless you have a wrong IP for your domain, and a server with that wrong IP sends out error messages and the backup server does not get the mail!

EasyDNS tech support are pretty friendly, they explained it to me when I was having ISP issues, so I would manually set them up when I was reconfiguring systems ratehr than trust the automatic feature.

 
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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 08:44:16 PM »
Charlie,
wildrowspump.com is server not recieving (142.179.184.208)
ecm.ab.ca (216.251.43.14) is one domain, the other is astecsafety.com 216.251.32.98

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 11:45:12 PM »
dilligaf

Might be related to DNS configuration for your domain, see PTR & SPF sections at

http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:Administration_Manual:Appendix
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2009, 01:24:25 AM »
Charlie,
wildrowspump.com is server not recieving (142.179.184.208)
ecm.ab.ca (216.251.43.14) is one domain, the other is astecsafety.com 216.251.32.98

What's need to debug is the recipient email address which was rejected, and the server IP which rejected the email.

My guess from what you have told us is kevin@wildrowspump.com and 64.68.200.53.

According to Google, the most likely mail server to have generated that rejection message is Microsoft Exchange. Perhaps that will help you work out where the error has occurred.

The actual bounce message (including the headers you don't usually see) should contain sufficient information to work out exactly where the message had got to when it was determined to be undeliverable.

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 01:25:18 AM »
this is crazy, yet another one, the owner and me are very frustrated, these users exist:

> The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected =
> by the server. The rejected e-mail address was =
> 'alyson@wildrowspump.com'. Subject 'FSR Proof', Account: =
> 'mail.imagepress.ca', Server: 'smtp.imagepress.ca', Protocol: SMTP, =
> Server Response: '550 5.1.1 <alyson@wildrowspump.com>... User unknown', =
> Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2009, 01:33:07 AM »
this is crazy, yet another one, the owner and me are very frustrated, these users exist:

> The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected =
> by the server. The rejected e-mail address was =
> 'alyson@wildrowspump.com'. Subject 'FSR Proof', Account: =
> 'mail.imagepress.ca', Server: 'smtp.imagepress.ca', Protocol: SMTP, =
> Server Response: '550 5.1.1 <alyson@wildrowspump.com>... User unknown', =
> Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

"Error Number: 0x800CCC79" according to google is what Outlook Express will tell you when relaying is denied:

http://blog.connectto.net/index.php?blog=8&title=outlook_express_error_number_0x800ccc79&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Whoever is attempting to use the smtp.imagepress.ca mail server does not have permission to relay mail via that server. Perhaps they need to authenticate, or be physically located on a local network adjacent to that server. They should consult their technical support, in any case.

It has nothing to do with wildrowspump.com. Or with SME server.



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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2009, 02:15:12 AM »
the server log is full of these entries, are they related?

May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]: [2009/05/28 11:15:06, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1224)
May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]:   getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]:   Connection denied from 0.0.0.0
May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]: [2009/05/28 11:15:06, 0] lib/util_sock.c:write_data(562)
May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]:   write_data: write failure in writing to client 0.0.0.0. Error Connection reset by peer
May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]: [2009/05/28 11:15:06, 0] lib/util_sock.c:send_smb(761)
May 28 11:15:06 wrpcsrvr smbd[13323]:   Error writing 5 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer)
May 28 11:21:07 wrpcsrvr smbd[4343]: [2009/05/28 11:21:07, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1224)
May 28 11:21:07 wrpcsrvr smbd[4343]:   getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected
May 28 11:21:07 wrpcsrvr smbd[13787]: [2009/05/28 11:21:07, 0] lib/util_sock.c:get_peer_addr(1224)
May 28 11:21:07 wrpcsrvr smbd[13787]:   getpeername failed. Error was Transport endpoint is not connected

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2009, 02:26:10 AM »
oops!  the some work some don't is usually outgoing, got confused by the substitution of names!

If you are using easydns, you should be careful that you don't add mail.mydomain.com and neglect to update it !

Better to wildcard *.mydomain.com as an alias or just use mydomain.com as the mailserver

Also,  the backup mail service at Easydns seems to work if your server is off line, unless you have a wrong IP for your domain, and a server with that wrong IP sends out error messages and the backup server does not get the mail!

EasyDNS tech support are pretty friendly, they explained it to me when I was having ISP issues, so I would manually set them up when I was reconfiguring systems ratehr than trust the automatic feature.

 
I went to easydns,
under mx settings I have mail for zone wildrowspump.com is handled by servers mail.wildrowspump.com.
mail.wildrowspump.com is pingable, and you can telnet to the mailserver.

Then under hosts I deleted what was there and put *.wildrowspump.com / 142.179.184.208

Now If I try and ping wildrowspump.com, I get no response, which I should with the wildcard?
I can ping mail.wildrowspump.com

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2009, 04:01:56 PM »
the server log is full of these entries, are they related?

How could they be? The problem you have described has nothing to do with SME server.

Is that not clear yet?

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Re: 550 5.1.1 USER UNKNOWN
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 04:03:19 PM »
I went to easydns,

Go back there again, and put things back to how they were before.