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Anyone using a solid state HDD?

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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 06:04:07 PM »
We stopped running VIA EPIA boards some time ago in favour of Intel Atom based units.

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S

Hi Selintra,

Can you tell me why you've stopped using Via EPIA boards? My home SAIL/SME is using a ek10000g motherboard (which you recommended sometime ago) and I have had no problems with it. I am opening a small office and need to build another box but the ek10000g is no longer in stock anywhere here in the USA and I'm having trouble finding an Atom board with anything but dual Realtek LAN. Any help appreciated.

Del
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2009, 08:00:30 PM »
The EK10000 is now obsolete.  In a nutshell, that's why we don't use it anymore...  That and the fact that they (EPIA) don't have a suitable replacement.  However, the Atom 230 boards make a compelling alternative. Yes, they all use Realtek NICs as far as we know, but that's OK, we just downloaded the relevent driver and compiled it on SME7/CentOS4.  Works for us.

It really depends what you want.  For our entry PBX range we just wanted a quiet, mini-ITX format board in the one and a half Ghz range;  the Atom 230 boards hit that very nicely and the fact that Intel is producing them by the bucketload means that they aren't expensive.

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S

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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2009, 04:46:49 PM »
Yes, they all use Realtek NICs as far as we know, but that's OK, we just downloaded the relevant driver and compiled it on SME7/CentOS4.  Works for us.

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S

Hi Selintra,

I've downloaded the driver from Realtek for kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in .tar.bz2 format. Can you point me in the right direction on howto compile it for SME/Centos4. May be a link explaining the procedure and relevant command line instructions, anything that will give me a start. All my search efforts keep going to Centos5 tutorials. In the .tar.bz2 file there is a makefile, can I just run the make command?

Thanks,
Del
« Last Edit: October 30, 2009, 04:52:39 PM by del »
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2009, 11:08:53 PM »
You'll need GCC if you want to compile it yourself. 

In theory, you should recompile the driver from source each time you upgrade your kernel release.  You may, or may not, find that this step is necessary for you.

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S
« Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 11:13:28 PM by SARK devs »

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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2009, 11:23:17 PM »
You'll need GCC if you want to compile it yourself. 

In theory, you should recompile the driver from source each time you upgrade your kernel release.  You may, or may not, find that this step is necessary for you.

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S
I'm sorry for being a bit slow, but what is GCC? Do I install it on my server? Please forgive me I  have not done anything like this before, but I am willing to listen and learn.

Thanks again,
Del
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2009, 01:08:25 AM »
The question of compiling source code has been, someway a hot potato during the years.

There is some security concerns about this. When the discussion has been up, from time to time, the advice from experienced SME users and developers has been "don't do it you will hurt the overall security of your server."

It can be done, but I actually don't do it myself any more. (I rather use virtual installations of the SME server running under Vmware, and then hardware support is not a issue anymore, as this will be handeled by the host system.)

Here is a link to one of the many discussions from the old days, and the recomendation is as already mentioned: Don't do it.

http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,38788.0.html

.. Unless S has some more updated and bether ideas ?
« Last Edit: November 01, 2009, 01:10:49 AM by arne »
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2009, 12:40:53 AM »
OK, I've sorted out GCC, I am now trying to find the source for my kernel (2.6.9-78.0.22.EL) I can only find the source code for original kernel (2.6.9-78.0.08.EL). So can anyone point to it? I have searched Centos's site and can't find that exact version. Do I need it to compile drivers? I understand that I would need it compile a software package.

Thanks,
Del

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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2009, 09:54:46 AM »
The developer manual contains a clear warning against installing compilers on production servers. The advice that has been given before in this forum is to compile the drivers on one other Centos installation and transfer it to the SME server after. (I actually don't know how to do that myself.)

Anyhow, to find the sourcecode for that particular network adapter I think you should specify the model of network adapter or the main board with the integreated adapter.
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2009, 10:00:23 AM »
OK, I've sorted out GCC, I am now trying to find the source for my kernel (2.6.9-78.0.22.EL) I can only find the source code for original kernel (2.6.9-78.0.08.EL). So can anyone point to it? I have searched Centos's site and can't find that exact version. Do I need it to compile drivers? I understand that I would need it compile a software package.

Thanks,
Del



Del, please, install a Centos 4.X machine, update it then compile your drivers on it..

there are many many guides and howto out there, search with Google; stop tampering your server :)

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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 01:52:38 PM »
Arne and Stefano, don't panic, I'm using a test server to try it on. Any how couldn't I just remove GCC when I'm finished?
Arne, I've got the source for the driver, I'm looking for the source for the latest kernel on SME 7.4, the original kernel source is on the srpm iso.
Stefano, I have seen lots of howtos, but none that show you how to move from one PC to another, they all seem to be doing it on the PC that needs the drivers. So I am still trying to work through it. I would use SME8, even though it's still beta (my limited tests have found it to be as stable as 7.4) but I don't think that the current SAIL and Asterisk 1.4 can be used on it, the only howto for it involves compiling Asterisk 1.6 (which brings us back to the security problem that you mentioned) and using an experimental SAIL rpm.

Del
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2009, 05:45:07 AM »
I still have not given up with this yet, the MSI motherboard with dual LAN sits here waiting patiently so if anyone  can help I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
Del
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Re: Anyone using a solid state HDD?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2009, 01:05:10 PM »
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