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Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server

Offline piran

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 02:09:54 PM »
I'm just being cautious. Particularly with those
things over which I don't have a detailed grasp.
SME's security is really important. I'll experiment
a little in the meantime.

Offline wbs316

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 03:00:51 AM »
Thanks very much NickR.

I found the same detail on a Mac related forum and tried the same option that you have mentioned and was able to access the SME server OK.

For reference this SME server is version 6, that's right Version Six, so hopefully this may be of help to others who are trying to use Windows 7 with SME 6 or 7.

Offline janet

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 09:51:54 AM »
piran

> I'm just being cautious.

I think you are being overcautious & bordering on impractical.

Window (Vista & 7) defaults to security settings that are applicable to Microsoft Windows Servers. If you want to use those settings, then you need to use Window Servers, which is what Microsoft are expecting you to do.
SME servers running Samba do not support those protocols, so you need to change the settings to a compatible protocol, as has been advised to you.
Just search for Vista login issues on google and the forums for plenty of answers, which identify the same issue you are seeing with Win 7.

See one of many articles here
http://www.builderau.com.au/blogs/codemonkeybusiness/viewblogpost.htm?p=339270746
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

Offline piran

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2010, 04:36:37 PM »
piran
> I'm just being cautious.
I think you are being overcautious & bordering on impractical.
You are entitled to your opinion and which
I respect but I would ask you not to judge me.

Window (Vista & 7) defaults to security settings that are applicable to Microsoft Windows Servers. If you want to use those settings, then you need to use Window Servers, which is what Microsoft are expecting you to do.
Noted. Thank you.

SME servers running Samba do not support those protocols, so you need to change the settings to a compatible protocol, as has been advised to you.
Noted. Once again thank you.
My point of concern was that a situation where SME refused connection
to a M$ box could be resolved by a settings change on the _M$_ box where
formerly the connection was refused. This is what concerned me.

Just search for Vista login issues on google and the forums for plenty of answers, which identify the same issue you are seeing with Win 7.
I know where to look.
I have __NO__ issue with Win 7 as currently set up here.

See one of many articles here
http://www.builderau.com.au/blogs/codemonkeybusiness/viewblogpost.htm?p=339270746
Thank you for that URL. On first glance it appears to deal with
security and access arrangements, however that posting
pre-dates the launching of Win7 by some two years...
Having jumped ten years from W2K to W7 I'm not about
to throw away two years without 'some' caution;~)
It's boilerplated for possible future use.
I have no problem with W7 accessing SME7.

Offline Stefano

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2010, 04:45:00 PM »
piran:

IMO you should not worry about it.. M$ is trying to change the lock to avoid that you can use the old key :-)

there's nothing to worry about in changing access protocol to a SME share as long you consider your SME safe (and, sincerely, I pretty sure that SME is far more secure than every windows version ever seen here)

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    > I'm just being cautious.
    I think you are being overcautious & bordering on impractical.
You are entitled to your opinion and which
I respect but I would ask you not to judge me.

if you are so worried about security, you should stop using windows ;-)

Offline piran

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2010, 04:54:52 PM »
if you are so worried about security, you should stop using windows ;-)
Have been trying to get off windows for years but those
NM$otine patches just aren't working;~) As a photographer
I have to go with the OS supported by the drivers and RAW
rendering engines. Anyway isn't ten years' of OS effectively
'sealed in aspic' proof enough for you;~) GIMP just doesn't
do it for me the way Photoshop did (I use Silkypix now).
Meanwhile I keep the boxes as far apart as I can configure.

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2010, 09:26:19 PM »
Is SME 8 going to support PDC function and domain joining ?
Have someone succeed with "hacking" or update SME 7,4 to support this ?
Just browsing ibays and making batfiles sounds not like an professinal option.

Vagabonden

Offline Stefano

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2010, 09:54:27 PM »
Is SME 8 going to support PDC function and domain joining ?
Have someone succeed with "hacking" or update SME 7,4 to support this ?
Just browsing ibays and making batfiles sounds not like an professinal option.

Vagabonden


you have been aswered in the other topic.. anyway, W7 joining SME 7.4 domain will not be supportes, as a new version of samba is needed and this feature will not be backported.

Offline janet

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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2010, 12:14:52 AM »
vagabonden & piran

See
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,45474.msg221096.html#msg221096

> Is SME 8 going to support PDC function and domain joining ?

Yes, sme8beta5 has support, so I assume this will become part of sme 8 final release.

If you want to use Win7 & sme as a PDC then you need to use sme8beta5. There is no other simple practical answer.

Regarding doing a lot of hacking & upgrading to a sme7.4, it would be fraught with problems, and you would be well advised to avoid that approach.

In comparison, you would have very few problems, if any, switching to sme8beta5. Although beta, it is well advanced and basic sme7.4 equivalent functionality (plus more) appears to be there and working.

An sme8beta5 PDC for Win7 would likely be more stable and more secure than a hacked sme 7.4 or 7.5, if it were possible to upgrade a 7.x server, which I doubt is possible as suitable rpms do not exist.

So for Win7 PDC requirements you either wait for sme8.0, or use sme8beta5 for more immediate needs.
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
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Re: Connecting a Windows 7 laptop to an SME server
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2010, 12:24:38 AM »
vagabonden & piran
...nothing to do with me, my posts or interest.