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External Website with same Domain Name.

Offline matrixtooling

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External Website with same Domain Name.
« on: November 11, 2010, 02:56:40 PM »
Hello All,
    I have an SME box as our server and gateway.  It is also the DNS server.  Our local domain is matrixtooling.com and our externally hosted website is www.matrixtooling.com So we setup a hostname for www and pointed it to the IP address of our hosting company ( static IP ).  A couple of days ago it stopped working.  Now no matter what I do I can't get to our website from inside the domain.  The IP address is correct but I can't ping it or anything.  All other traffic is working normally and a computer outside of the domain works completely normal.  Any ideas on the best setup for this scenario or what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks so much for your help!

Offline brianr

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2010, 04:10:54 PM »
I'd say the hosting company have changed the Ip address of the external website

I get:

173.205.126.186
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
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Offline matrixtooling

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2010, 04:13:33 PM »
Thanks, but that's exactly what I had.  We payed for a static IP address from inmotion hosting.  Any other ideas?  Thanks!

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2010, 04:18:27 PM »
Thanks, but that's exactly what I had.  We payed for a static IP address from inmotion hosting.  Any other ideas?  Thanks!

when you ping the website from inside your LAN what Ip does it resolve to?
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
.........

Offline matrixtooling

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2010, 04:20:46 PM »
If I have the hostname for www set on the SME server it resolves the correct address.  If it's not set than it can't resolve an address.  Either way I get no ping reply. 

Offline brianr

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2010, 04:23:31 PM »
If I have the hostname for www set on the SME server it resolves the correct address.  If it's not set than it can't resolve an address.  Either way I get no ping reply.

Some websites do not respond to a ping (the hoster can control this), more importantly when it is correctly resolved, can you get to the website in a browser (sorry if this is obvious, but I think it needs asking!)
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
.........

Offline matrixtooling

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2010, 04:40:11 PM »
I can ping the site from any other internet connection.  It fails to load the page in the browser saying it can't resolve the IP address. 

Offline brianr

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2010, 04:50:30 PM »
I can ping the site from any other internet connection.  It fails to load the page in the browser saying it can't resolve the IP address.

<ping>yes I can from here as well.

I did have one such site that failed like yours a year or so ago, and I never managed to resolve the problem. 

<thought> You could try disabling the http proxy in the control panel,  you might want to reboot to be sure that the change bites (others might confirm or deny this is needed) .
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
.........

Offline cactus

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2010, 06:15:25 PM »
For what it's worth I can access the site perfectly ATM.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than its worth ~ Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)

Offline brianr

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2010, 06:30:08 PM »
For what it's worth I can access the site perfectly ATM.

yes, so can I, matrixtooling is having trouble only within his LAN.
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
.........

Offline cactus

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2010, 06:35:05 PM »
yes, so can I, matrixtooling is having trouble only within his LAN.
Then matrixtooling should check to which IP number the site resolves on the LAN. Matrixtooling, what is the output of the following command on a (windows) box in your lan:

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nslookup www.matrixtooling.com
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than its worth ~ Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)

Offline matrixtooling

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2010, 06:44:34 PM »
Here's the NS Lookup Info.

C:\Users\ nslookup www.matrixtooling.com
Server:  mail.matrixtooling.com
Address:  192.168.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.matrixtooling.com
Address:  173.205.126.186

Offline cactus

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2010, 06:51:43 PM »
Here's the NS Lookup Info.

C:\Users\ nslookup www.matrixtooling.com
Server:  mail.matrixtooling.com
Address:  192.168.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:    www.matrixtooling.com
Address:  173.205.126.186
That is strange, it returns the proper IP address.

Can you show us the output of the following commands:
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db domains show matrixtooling.com
db accounts show www.matrixtooling.com
« Last Edit: November 11, 2010, 06:55:06 PM by cactus »
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Offline matrixtooling

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2010, 07:01:59 PM »
[root@mail html]# db domains show matrixtooling.com
matrixtooling.com=domain
    Content=Primary
    Description=Primary domain
    Nameservers=localhost
    Removable=no
    SystemPrimaryDomain=yes

The other command yields nothing.   Thanks for all of the support guys.

Offline cactus

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Re: External Website with same Domain Name.
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 07:08:06 PM »
[root@mail html]# db domains show matrixtooling.com
matrixtooling.com=domain
    Content=Primary
    Description=Primary domain
    Nameservers=localhost
    Removable=no
    SystemPrimaryDomain=yes

The other command yields nothing.   Thanks for all of the support guys.
Then I am wondering where the IP address is coming from, can you remember if you configured it somewhere on your server? What does a traceroute command from the workstations on your network yield:
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tracert www.matrixtools.com
tracert 173.205.126.186

And on your server, what does this yield:
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nslookup www.matrixtooling.com
traceroute www.matrixtooling.com
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than its worth ~ Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free (To Wear Sunscreen)