Topic: sme8 64bit iso

[tariqf]

Hi I posted this in an old sme7 64-bit thread but it may be better here. If anyone is interested we are using our own 64bit compile of sme8b6. Reason being we use use sme8 a lot in production and we needed more than 4GB RAM without the need for PAE kernel as we heavily use kvm. We are still in the process testing + making some repositories etc. for yum so there will be a few updates after this one. This is purely for our own internal use but I guess some people may find it useful.

This link is a 7zipped ISO
http://www.withsupport.co.uk/sme64.7z

[slords]

I'd be very careful using this ISO.  After just a quick look at it I notice that is differs from the 32-bit version by quite a bit, enough that I question if it even works.

[tariqf]

Hi it works fine for us so far (try it on a vm or something if you want), based on centos 5.5 + sme rpms. Definitely something to be careful with though maybe just for fun or testing. We will be using it in production in next month though.

[CharlieBrady]

tariqf, are your SRPMS available for download? Do you have a bug tracking system?

[tariqf]

Srpms are just the ones from sme, will soon be making available a repo with all rpms and rspms etc... Should be ready Monday and linked on my website wiki. Will probably do a bug tracker too but most testing etc will be done internally as we step up the roll out for our own systems.

[byte]

I'm interested to know why you are using php 5.1 as SME Server 8b6 (x86_64) uses php 5.2?

How are you maintaining updates for this release as well as "yum upgrade" will not work.

Also, I hope a big donation has been made if you are making money from the community distro/work as without the community distro/work you wouldn't have been able to do this in the first place

Thanks.

[svsleuwen]

Dear tariqf,

I think your effort didn't get the credit it deserves!
My personal opinion on this is that it is a good thing that someone experiments with 64 bit SME and linke to see this more often from more users.
For a long time I use SME and am quite happy with how it performs, but hardware support is often lacking with newer hardware.
Why isn't there a experimental build that is based on CENTOS 6.2 X64  ?
I thought that the general idea behind SME was that with the templated system people would have an easier upgrade path to newer kernels and utils.

Well, that said. Good job! And thank you for your effort!

[Stefano]

but hardware support is often lacking with newer hardware.

since SME8 is based on CentOS5 i.e. RH5, if you buy certified HW you should not have any issue at all (I use HP servers, NEVER had any issue)

and this is not SME related.. if you buy RHEL5 an try to install on unsupported/not certified hw, you will exprerience the same problem than with SME.

Why isn't there a experimental build that is based on CENTOS 6.2 X64  ?

because SME8 is based on CentOS5.x?
because there are many differences between CentOS6 and CentOS5?
because the developers are a small and busy group of person?
because there is no money to pay anyone to do such a work?

I thought that the general idea behind SME was that with the templated system people would have an easier upgrade path to newer kernels and utils.

it's generally true, but not all..

P.S. reading here I see you use php-cgi.. be aware there's a big security flaw (not SME related..)

[svsleuwen]

Dear Stefano,

I don't think you understood what I was suggesting.
That was an experimental built of SME based on CENTOS 6.2 X64 (for porting the template system with Webbased UI) not related to SME 8.x.
It was suggested by antoher user to isolate the whole template system (the thing that makes SME work as SME) and maken an installer for it so someone can install it on a vanilla CENTOS or Redhat enterprise system and stil use the fantastic UI of SME!
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Quote from: svsleuwen on Today at 07:21:36 AM
but hardware support is often lacking with newer hardware.

Quote: since SME8 is based on CentOS5 i.e. RH5, if you buy certified HW you should not have any issue at all (I use HP servers, NEVER had any issue)

I Allso use HP (ML350) and IBM X3400M3 etc. but still not everything is working as it should be...


Quote: and this is not SME related.. if you buy RHEL5 an try to install on unsupported/not certified hw, you will exprerience the same problem than with SME.

That it hasn't anything todo with SME, that is correct. I agree ! But it has everything todo with using older versions of kernels 2.6.12 isnt really cutting edge offcourse (not that it should be).

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Why isn't there a experimental build that is based on CENTOS 6.2 X64  ?

because SME8 is based on CentOS5.x?
because there are many differences between CentOS6 and CentOS5?
because the developers are a small and busy group of person?
because there is no money to pay anyone to do such a work?

I Made my donations many times, no worries about that.

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I thought that the general idea behind SME was that with the templated system people would have an easier upgrade path to newer kernels and utils.

it's generally true, but not all..

P.S. reading here I see you use php-cgi.. be aware there's a big security flaw (not SME related..)
That is related to a question specific for a customer environment....

[Stefano]

I don't think you understood what I was suggesting.
That was an experimental built of SME based on CENTOS 6.2 X64 (for porting the template system with Webbased UI) not related to SME 8.x.

I can't see any reference to CentOS6.x in the previous messages.. can you explain?
I see tariqf's iso is CentOS5.5 x86_64 based.. am I missing something?

[svsleuwen]

I can't see any reference to CentOS6.x in the previous messages.. can you explain?
I see tariqf's iso is CentOS5.5 x86_64 based.. am I missing something?

Yes, you have missed what I have written completely?

[Stefano]

Yes, you have missed what I have written completely?

ok, then, please, explain again thinking I am a 5 years old child (Cit.)

[svsleuwen]

I was suggesting building an experimental ISO of SME based on CENTOS 6.2 X64 (or 32bits of course) (for porting the template system with Webbased UI) not related to SME 8.x.
It was suggested by antoher user to isolate the whole template system (the thing that makes SME work as SME) and maken an installer for it so someone can install it on a vanilla CENTOS or Redhat enterprise system and stil use the fantastic UI of SME!

[CharlieBrady]

I was suggesting building an experimental ISO of SME based on CENTOS 6.2 X64 (or 32bits of course) (for porting the template system with Webbased UI) not related to SME 8.x.

Were you volunteering to do that? That sounds like a great idea. Have fun, and it will be interesting to see what you come up with.

If you are suggesting that I do it, I will just tell you that I already have plans for my next two dozen weekends.

[svsleuwen]

I was mearly replying on the first message in this thread... You reacted on my message, remember?

But Yes I am suggesting on giving it a go.
I'll try to download a Bare centos 6.2 system and apply rpms from 8.0 on that just like tariqf suggested in his first message here....