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From SME to CentOS 5.6

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From SME to CentOS 5.6
« on: May 30, 2011, 11:31:20 PM »
I have been using SME for a while now and have come to know that it is based on the CentOS distribution of Linux (Red Hat Enterprise, I'm guessing).  I have some needs that require me to go to the full version of CentOS 5.6.  I'm running it now and my experience with SME has made me a much better user of CentOS and Linux in general.

I really miss the browser interface for configuring my server.  This is something I've come to appreciate in MS's Windows Home Server as well.  Are there any packages available for making my CentOS 5.6 into something like SME and especially some kind of web interface?  I can see that a lot of hard work has gone into making SME a reliable and useful operation for the non-professional, but I'll ask anyway. 

Many thanks to the many people who have made SME possible.

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2011, 12:29:50 AM »
I have some needs that require me to go to the full version of CentOS 5.6.

please define, thank you

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2011, 02:05:59 AM »
LANMonkey

Use SME8beta6 (based on CentOS 5.5), it is quite stable in it's current form, if you need the newer Centos OS with the SME interface, then this is the only answer.
It would be a MASSIVE job to re-engineer Centos 5.6 to drop SME into it, if you want to do that then you should really join the dev team and get SME 8 completed (to final release) and work on moving to Centos 5.6, which will be inevitable anyway.
Working to finish SME8 would be a far easier and less time consuming task than dropping SME into Centos 5.6.
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2011, 10:31:39 AM »
Although I think the comment about SME8 is apposite, you could look at http://www.webmin.com/
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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2011, 05:53:38 PM »
please define, thank you

You want to know why I need to use the full version of CentOS.  I need the full version in order to run MySQL 5.1 or greater.  I made some inquiries about some possibilities here:

http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,46327.msg227041.html#msg227041

CentOS 5.6 does not come with MySQL 5.1 or greater, but it is possible to upgrade without breaking anything and apparently this is not possible in SME as explained in the links at the above thread.

Thanks brianr, Webmin looks like it is precisely what I am after.

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2011, 10:04:46 PM »
CentOS 5.6 does not come with MySQL 5.1 or greater, but it is possible to upgrade without breaking anything and apparently this is not possible in SME as explained in the links at the above thread.

Nobody told you that it was not possible to upgrade mysql in SME8 to 5.1 or greater. In fact you didn't ask that question - you asked about running a second mysql.

Both are possible, but you'll have to work out how to do it yourself. Just as you would with CentOS 5.6.

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2011, 11:09:55 PM »
The link from the above link:

http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:FAQ#General_2

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General

The SME Server is based on CentOS, the development team will take their stock RPM's from the CentOS releases. The current version of MySQL installed on SME Server is version 4.1.20.

You can upgrade MySQL to a higher version but you are advised not to do so, as this might break your SME Server configuration. The Horde webmail interface relies on MySQL. Upgrading to version 5.x is known to break stuff like webmail. If you insist on upgrading MySQL you may be able to find instructions in the forum, but be advised that no support can be expected from the developers and all bugs reported in the bugtracker will not be taken into account.

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2011, 12:34:15 AM »
this is related to SME7 and to upgrading from mysql 4.x to 5.x, which is a change of major release

in SME8 upgrading mysql doens't mean a change of major release, so there should not be many/big issues
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 12:37:09 AM by Stefano »

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2011, 12:49:32 AM »
this is related to SME7 and to upgrading from mysql 4.x to 5.x, which is a change of major release

in SME8 upgrading mysql doens't mean a change of major release, so there should not be many/big issues

Hmmm ... "... there should not be many/big issues"?  Could you be a little more reassuring than that?  I don't want to break anything, especially webmail, which I depend on heavily.

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Re: From SME to CentOS 5.6
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2011, 12:56:06 AM »
Hmmm ... "... there should not be many/big issues"?  Could you be a little more reassuring than that?

OK, I will say that there will be no problems. Happy? Of course, I might be wrong. You will have to try it and find out, right?

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I don't want to break anything, especially webmail, which I depend on heavily.

If you don't want to break anything, then don't change anything. You seem to want to have your cake and eat it too.

If you must have Mysql 5.1, and you must not break webmail/SME, then put your mysql 5.1 requiring app on a different server.