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Spamassassin's cutoff level

Offline Stuart

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Spamassassin's cutoff level
« on: October 27, 2011, 07:27:55 AM »
SME appears not to utilize Spamassassin's cutoff level.  Is it possible to implement this using a template fragment?

Offline brianr

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2011, 10:20:14 AM »
I think you'll find that you can set a cutoff if you select "custom" in the Spamassassin Server manager panel.
Brian j Read
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Offline mmccarn

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2011, 12:53:01 PM »
Many of the powerful spam fighting tools included in SME are disabled by default, in order to encourage admins to be intentional about their use :
http://wiki.contribs.org/Email#Default_Plugin_Configuration

I recommend reading the Sonoracomm spam filter howto:
http://wiki.contribs.org/Email#The_Sonora_Communications_.22Spam_Filter_Configuration_for_SME_7.22_howto

At a minimum, I would enable:
- spamassassin
- dnsbl  (default server settings may be too strict)
- rhsbl (default server settings may be too strict)
- bayesian auto-learning


Offline Stuart

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 03:06:55 AM »
Brian,
I do not see cut off level on my server (7.4), I have a screen shot but I can't attach it (not enough posts?).
Here's a crude list of what I have set.
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Virus scanning   Enabled
Spam filtering   Enabled
Spam sensitivity   
Custom spam tagging level   5
Custom spam rejection level   20
Sort spam into junkmail folder   Disabled
Modify subject of spam messages   Enabled
As you can see, it has tag and rejection but no cut off.

mmccarn,
I have been through that, I'm happy with my filtering setup.  Nowhere in that documentation does it mention cutoff.  It only deals with rejecting mail.

Offline brianr

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 07:52:58 AM »
You'd better explain what you mean by "cutoff" in that case.
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
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Offline Stuart

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2011, 08:06:12 AM »
Sorry, my mistake.  Cutoff level is a feature in the Amavis milter, which I use on non-SME servers.  It is not part of Spamassassin.  You set it to something like cutoff level 100 and any email that scores that high simply gets dropped, no bounce/reject/DSN messages.

That explains why I can't find it!  Sorry about that.

Now, where do I go to request features?
« Last Edit: October 28, 2011, 08:08:21 AM by Stuart »

Offline brianr

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2011, 10:27:44 AM »
Sorry, my mistake.  Cutoff level is a feature in the Amavis milter, which I use on non-SME servers.  It is not part of Spamassassin.  You set it to something like cutoff level 100 and any email that scores that high simply gets dropped, no bounce/reject/DSN messages.

That explains why I can't find it!  Sorry about that.

Now, where do I go to request features?

How is that really different from the rejection level?
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
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Offline Stuart

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2011, 10:33:47 AM »
How is that really different from the rejection level?
No DSN is sent.

Offline brianr

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2011, 12:42:35 PM »
Not sure I understand why that is important.

I suspect Unless Spamassassin itself provides that facility (which I think it does not), then it is unlikely to get "added" to SMEServer.

You can try all the same, request for new faciities are handled through the bugzilla:

http://bugs.contribs.org/

You'll need to register, please post a link to your request here as well.
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
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Offline Stefano

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2011, 04:21:25 PM »
Stuart: install smeserver-wbl contrib.. you can "blacklist" email addresses wia spamassassin (i.e. no bounce)

you can also create custom spamassassin rules.. search google for syntax and the dev's manual for template/fragments tutorial

finally, I remember a procmail panel to create procmail rules based on sender, headers ecc.. but now I don't remember the name of it

Offline brianr

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2011, 05:52:50 PM »
finally, I remember a procmail panel to create procmail rules based on sender, headers ecc.. but now I don't remember the name of it

smeserver-mailsorting
Brian j Read
(retired, for a second time, still got 2 installations though)
The instrument I am playing is my favourite Melodeon.
.........

Offline Stuart

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Re: Spamassassin's cutoff level
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 11:54:28 PM »
Guys, I have wbl installed.  It sends a DSN.

mailsorting looks like the way to go.  I'm installing it now.

Thanks to all of you for your input.