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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2016, 02:27:33 PM »
 :sad: OFF TOPIC!


I can't resist the urge, but I still do not get it why companies want to use Windows at all. (no Flame or war intended, genuine surprised). There TONS of desktop environments out there, especially when we're in the cloud age and browser age.

It's because of established practices and integration of business products. Some examples: most lawyers use Word because most other lawyers use Word and due to Microsoft's stance/ineptitude/deliberate sabotage (not sure which, or all), the latest docx format still does not translate well in Open/Libre Office. Then they are using macro-integrated document templating systems that produce ready-to-fill-in forms that only work in MS Word. Often they are using macro-integrated Client management systems that only work with Word. There's no real alternative to the massive ecosystem around Word and Excel FOR THESE STANDARD TASKS.

Another example: one of our clients sells massively on Amazon. Amazon produces generated Excel spreadsheet files of sales and orders that are incompatible with Open/Libre Office, so we have had to supply Excel. And so it goes.

And then there's Exchange and its integrated calendaring. We don't use it, but many of our clients do, where secretaries are managing their boss's appointments etc. We've looked at all alternatives for years, there's nothing as good.

I detest Exchange, and I dumped Windows as a desktop 6 years ago, but I still need a virtual Windows to replicate client issues.

It's a damn shame but what do you do?
« Last Edit: July 07, 2016, 02:36:25 PM by stabilys »
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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2016, 02:31:43 PM »
It's a damn shame but what do you do?
Keep pushing alternatives. I do with my clients. Just 'converted' a small team from M$ Outlook to Thunderbird, they love it.

It's the kick back in $$ that companies receive for 'knotting' their products into M$ products to create hugely profitable dependencies.

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2016, 02:46:48 PM »
Keep pushing alternatives. I do with my clients. Just 'converted' a small team from M$ Outlook to Thunderbird, they love it.

Yes all our non Windows server clients are on Thunderbird. But Calendaring is not integrated so not applicable to Exchange users (yes we've looked at all the various options, still not 'integrated' as with Exchange)

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It's the kick back in $$ that companies receive for 'knotting' their products into M$ products to create hugely profitable dependencies.

Not sure about that. Most small developers I know pay to get access to the MS ecosystem.

EG:

http://www.dpssoftware.co.uk/

http://www.sage.co.uk/

http://www.intuit.co.uk/

NOT ADVERTS! Just integration examples.

Disclosure: I was once a Sage developer, but have now recovered. All of these pay for access, and only work with the MS toolset.

I agree with you, and I have been trying to move everyone off for over twenty years, but life's too short.

However, 90% of our clients have some, or a lot, of Linux/BSD infrastructure and 40% no Windows server. The desktop ain't going to change quickly.
This, too, will pass ;)

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2016, 02:49:27 PM »
Yes all our non Windows server clients are on Thunderbird. But Calendaring is not integrated so not applicable to Exchange users (yes we've looked at all the various options, still not 'integrated' as with Exchange)


The SOGo contrib together with the lightning calendaring for Thunderbird does the job.

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2016, 02:54:51 PM »
The SOGo contrib together with the lightning calendaring for Thunderbird does the job.
More than just the job ;-)
SOGo + Thunderbird + Lightning + sogo-connector + sogo-integrator + some scripts to auto configure everything using MCD makes a very good solution. I'm using this on several different sites and it's just magic. Nothing to configure, nothing to backup. Just log into a client station, run Thunderbird and TB is automatically configured, your mails/agenda/addressbooks are syncing. (Well, the only annoying thing is that you're asked for your password several times)
C'est la fin du monde !!! :lol:

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2016, 02:58:52 PM »
More than just the job :wink:
SOGo + Thunderbird + Lightning + sogo-connector + sogo-integrator + some scripts to auto configure everything using MCD makes a very good solution. I'm using this on several different sites and it's just magic. Nothing to configure, nothing to backup. Just log into a client station, run Thunderbird and TB is automatically configured, your mails/agenda/addressbooks are syncing. (Well, the only annoying thing is that you're asked for your password several times)


That's worth a detailed wiki page ;-)

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2016, 03:02:28 PM »
More than just the job ;-)
SOGo + Thunderbird + Lightning + sogo-connector + sogo-integrator + some scripts to auto configure everything using MCD makes a very good solution. I'm using this on several different sites and it's just magic. Nothing to configure, nothing to backup. Just log into a client station, run Thunderbird and TB is automatically configured, your mails/agenda/addressbooks are syncing. (Well, the only annoying thing is that you're asked for your password several times)

I'll check it out. But getting people off Exchange (which they have barely mastered in the first place) will be like extracting winkles with a cotton bud :) But I'm happy to try.

And also, that doesn't address the system integration issues with other software... :(

This, too, will pass ;)

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2016, 03:16:18 PM »
And also, that doesn't address the system integration issues with other software... :(


Take a look at their commercial licences costs and conditions. There are alternatives for accounting, time management etc. at no licensing costs....


'Educate' your clients would be my motto.

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2016, 04:05:16 PM »

Take a look at their commercial licences costs and conditions. There are alternatives for accounting, time management etc. at no licensing costs....


'Educate' your clients would be my motto.

Costs aren't the issue. Functionality is.

Cheers!
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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #54 on: July 07, 2016, 09:29:11 PM »
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Take a look at their commercial licences costs and conditions. There are alternatives for accounting, time management etc. at no licensing costs....
'Educate' your clients would be my motto.

Some of you guys seem ignorant of statutory lodgement requirements for various industries, including accounting & taxation, that require the use of officially approved software by the tax office & other government bodies. It depends what country you are in of course. These products are usually developed for the Windows workstation & server environments. I know of none that work on Linux or are developed for Linux. There is massive integration between functionality of these products & typically the Microsoft platform is chosen as the basis for integration eg specialised accounting applications use features of Office etc.

Nothing else available to purchase & any free or GNU options are not approved. So Linux & alternative "no licencing cost" software is not always a viable answer.
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2016, 02:59:44 PM »
The topic is flying away .......

Any news abouit Samba Updates for Centos 5/Sme 8 ? In Centos 6/Sme 9 seem solved.
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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2016, 03:04:39 PM »
The topic is flying away .......

Any news abouit Samba Updates for Centos 5/Sme 8 ? In Centos 6/Sme 9 seem solved.

See posting by Charlie June 24th - https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2016:1294

Edit: update is in smeupdates-testing
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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2016, 03:14:49 PM »
Edit: update is in smeupdates-testing

?, could you please elaborate a bit more? thank you

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2016, 03:24:46 PM »
https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9448


When a bug is verified and fixed, it goes into testing

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Re: latest SAMBA YUM UPDATES gives NT_STATUS_TRUSTED_RELATIONSHIP_FAILURE
« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2016, 03:27:11 PM »
Bug was on upstream packages which aren't in our repos.. samba3x last release rpms are already available from upstream and installed on every updated server..

IOW, there's nothing in testing regarding this bug AFAIK