Topic: SME11 default webmail

[Jean-Philippe Pialasse]

we sticker over the version with Horde because it was there and solid for years.

Seems that the team has left behind the project for a while. Even if they started working on a horde 6 franework recently it is not ready for production and the current framwork 5 was designed for php5, with ability to run for few years on php7 but we are looking now at php 82 and 83 as current.

1- So what was your usage of horde on SME 9 and before?


- none
- just mail
- agenda
- tasks
- memo
- ldap directory
- other

2- what project would you like to see the new default webmail?

[Gary Douglas]

Horde is good but not usable as groupware in production, current sme10 version has 2 issues.  1. Event reminders discarded if set to 0 minutes. 2. Event invitations organiser changes to recipient email address and resends invites to all attendees from new organiser email address. Nextcloud snappymail and groupware is good but not everyone will use nextcloud. Still use Horde webmail on mobile phone instead of setting up a mailbox.

[Gary Douglas]

also use Horde sieve a lot

[ReetP]

Personally we do not use webmail - no one likes it - except for odd emergencies when it is handy to see what is actually on the server instead of what the mail client thinks it has in its cache.

We use Nextcloud or Corebos for all our Calendars/Contacts so all we really need is a good basic webmail and not fussed about which one it is.

So 'Just mail' is about it.

[TerryF]

So 'Just mail' is about it.

Yes this...

[warren]

Yes this...

^

[Stefano]

May I suggest SOGo?

it's actively developed, and there's already a contrib to integrate it in SME
I widely used it since... well, more than 10 years, in small environments (less than 10 users) and in medium/big ones (300 users, most of the time more than 170 connected at the same time on a VM with 12 Gb of ram..)
never had an issue

[ReetP]

Issue with Sogo is they closed it and just do nightly/dev releases. Will they close nightly as well?

When do we update? Daily? How stable is it (not just for us, but lots of users?).

I did like it but just not convinced of other factors.

[Jean-Philippe Pialasse]

Stefano,

SoGo is indeed one of those in mind, but John has enumerated the flaws.
Roundcube is an alternative with some plugins available.
There is also
- squirrelmail
- rainloop
- zimbra
- mailpile
…

[bunkobugsy]

squirrelmail very 'classic' and outdated (except devel version)
but rainloop looks nice, lite and easy to setup, 1.17 released Aug 31, 2022

[Stefano]

Stefano,

SoGo is indeed one of those in mind, but John has enumerated the flaws.
Roundcube is an alternative with some plugins available.
There is also
- squirrelmail
- rainloop
- zimbra
- mailpile
…

I understand John's concerns.. for me, SOGo was (and will be) the choice, if we're talking about a groupware solution
but I'm not the community

is zimbra available as a webmail app only? AFAIK is a complete mail server solutions
is roundcube still developed?

[Jean-Philippe Pialasse]

I understand John's concerns.. for me, SOGo was (and will be) the choice, if we're talking about a groupware solution
but I'm not the community

is zimbra available as a webmail app only? AFAIK is a complete mail server solutions
is roundcube still developed?

zimbra is indeed a stack

roundcube is  actively  and is currently having serious discussions with nextcloud

https://nextcloud.com/blog/open-source-email-pioneer-roundcube-comes-aboard-nextcloud/

[david000]

Roundcube web mail here.   

We tend not to use any of the plug ins but like the 'clean' interface.

 

[bunkobugsy]

from https://community.e.foundation/t/rainloop-is-depreciated-any-suggested-alternatives-replacements/45044/14

https://snappymail.eu/comparison
https://snappymail.eu/demo/

https://www.iredmail.org/download.html

[Stefano]

https://snappymail.eu/comparison
https://snappymail.eu/demo/

this is, IMHO, the only real alternative

https://www.iredmail.org/download.html

not really
https://docs.iredmail.org/install.iredmail.on.rhel.html

P.S. iredmail uses SOGo