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SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost

Martin

SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« on: February 02, 2003, 04:23:17 PM »
Hi
Is it possible to ghost the new filesystem to an other HD with Norton Ghost 2003?
Thanks

Lars

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2003, 04:57:27 PM »
I'm listening. :)
I also want to know if this is posebly (or if you can install any freeware that can do the same thing)
// Lars

David Helmuth

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2003, 06:05:47 PM »
http://www.partimage.org/

Might be of interest.

Michael Smith

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2003, 07:21:08 PM »
Haven't tried w/5.6 but know it can be done w/5.1.2 ... this probably isn't particulary helpful though with the EXT3 filesystem.  However, Symantec's product info says it supports EXT3:

http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/ghost_personal/sys_req.html

You should be able to prepare a Ghost bootdisk from a 2003 Windows install and do the job.  You can even expand partitions, as when going to a larger HDD.

Dan Brown

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2003, 07:43:18 PM »
ext3 is just ext2 with a couple of hidden journal files.  This is why 5.6 can convert the existing ext2 fs to ext3 when it installs, while Reiser (or XFS or JFS) would require reformatting.

Cyrus Bharda

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2003, 01:46:40 AM »
Why not just use Flex backup/restore from disk?

http://myezserver.com/downloads/mitel/howto/flexbackup-to-disk-howto.html

Cyrus Bharda

Cyrus Bharda

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2003, 01:48:31 AM »
Forgot the restore :-)

http://www.e-smith.org/docs/howto/contrib/flexbackup-restore-from-disk-howto.html

Thanks to Des for the great Howto's!

Cyrus Bharda

Michael Smith

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2003, 07:07:16 AM »
Why use flexbackup when Ghost is easy, easy easy?  Don't think Ghost'd be much good in a RAID setup, though.

Cyrus Bharda

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2003, 07:12:01 AM »
Because Id rather not do anything and sit on my lazy ass while my SME backs up everyday without any help from me, then to walk over to the system, put the ghost boot disk in, reboot the computer wait till the image has been made and then reboot the computer again.

Why spend the time if you do not need to? Flexbackup makes an image and stores it on my w2k server every night and then that gets backed up onto tape, so in essence I have 2 backups of the SME server without even lifting a finger!

Cyrus Bharda

Jim Danvers

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost (Backup-Restore in general)
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2003, 07:26:42 AM »
Cyrus... ( or anyone else who might know )

Question regarding this very thing (backup/restore) of sme server.  I've been playing around with one that I built out of an old pc for personal use/learning and am seriously considering using it in a more 'real world' environment but I have questions about restoration of data.

I understand that there is a backup to desktop thing that apparently creates 2 gig at a shot files that can then be moved off to tape or some other media, XP desktops can apparently handle larger than 2 gig.  I also understand that there is a backup to tape, but from what I've read of that it seems kind of useless as I believe that I read it backs up the entire filesystem of the sme box,  but only restores the same data/directories that the backup to desktop choice would.  (?)

Anyway... my concern/question is more restore specific - say I have a backup method (anyone of the common sme ones frequently referenced - to desktop, to tape, or this one you like, flexbackup - can I do ~selective~ restores of data.  Ie; joe user calls me and tells me that he accidently deleted file(s) - can I restore ~just those files~ from any of the available backup methods provided??  Can I restore them without having to take the server down?

I haven't really played with/tested any of the available backup methods yet - but from what I've read everything seems geared towards a complete system restore.  While that is definately a good thing, there is typically (thankfully) a more frequent need fo partial/selective restores (vs. the entire thing! Aiy....  lol! )

Thanks in advance folks...

-=- jd -=-


Cyrus Bharda wrote:
>
> Because Id rather not do anything and sit on my lazy ass
> while my SME backs up everyday without any help from me, then
> to walk over to the system, put the ghost boot disk in,
> reboot the computer wait till the image has been made and
> then reboot the computer again.
>
> Why spend the time if you do not need to? Flexbackup makes an
> image and stores it on my w2k server every night and then
> that gets backed up onto tape, so in essence I have 2 backups
> of the SME server without even lifting a finger!
>
> Cyrus Bharda

Cyrus Bharda

Re: SME 5.6 and Norton Ghost (Backup-Restore in general)
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2003, 07:34:12 AM »
Howdy Jim,

I am _pretty_ sure that a seletive restore is possible from all types of backup, desktop/flex/etc .

Although the methods for each are different.

Backup to desktop only backs up very little information, as to make it as little as possible so there wouldn't be that much to restore so a selective restore isn't really an issue as it would probably take long to do than a full restore from desktop backup. Thats the beauty of flexbackup, if you need to restore any single file you can, you just have to follow the howto, there was mention of a selective restore howto just the other day, I'm sure you'll find it if you search for it.

Cyrus Bharda