Topic: Now what do I do?

[rhys]

Ok, so I can't do anything with Gnome and SME. So, how does SME work?

I've got it onto my system. I plugged the RJ45 cable from one PC to the other (yes... it was a crossover cable). I shut down my firewall on my Windows PC. I waited for the Linux PC to boot. I waited a few minutes for everything to register. I couldn't find "Zeus" (my Linux PC's name) in Network Neighbourhood at all. Attempts to contact it via http://zeus/server-manager/ failed miserably with the Windows PC launching the dial-up window.

How do I get them to talk to each other? With Windows to Windows it's so easy.

I can get Aphrodite to talk to Promethius with no dicciculty. Why then won't Promethius pick up Zeus (haven't tried an Aphrodite-Zeus connection yet).

Rhys

[del]

Hi Rhys,
What version of windows are you using?
Have you set SME with DHCP on or off?
If on is your windows box set for dhcp, if off is it's IP address in the same range as the SME?
Can you ping the SME box from the windows box?
Regards,
Del

[rhys]

I'm using Windows 98 first edition on Promethius and NT4 on Aphrodite. I haven't tried connecting Aphrodite to Zeus yet.

How does one ping a server? At the moment it's a private network, not connected to the internet. I haven't made my mind up as to how I'm going to connect to the net yet. I could continue connecting via Promethius (since it has 2 modems) or I could buy a modem for Zeus and use Zeus as the internet connection.

I'm not sure at all about I/P addresses on private networks. How do I/P addresses work for systems such as mine?

(Promethius is an AT machine and Zeus is ATX)

Rhys

[Dave Liquorice]

> How does one ping a server?

Get to the command line and use the "ping" command. You don't ping a server or particular port just the interface that the server is connected to. If you want to check a particular service is accesable "telnet"  and specify the  host and port number to connect to.

> I'm not sure at all about I/P addresses on private networks. How do
> I/P sddresses work for systems such as mine?

Find and read RFC1918, but check that it hasn't been supersceded., it's a while since I read it...

Cheers
Dave.

[del]

Hi Rhys,
Open the command prompt on the windows box and type:
ping or ping
and you should get a reply from the server . If the server cannot be found then you will get a request timed out message.
You should make sure that the IP addresses are in the same range or let SME hand them out using DHCP. See the technical manual section "5.11 Configuring Your DHCP Server" for more information. If you are in in doubt about the IP range to use stick with SME's defaults.
Then you need to set the windows machines to "Obtain an IP address automatically" This is done in the network Neighborhood properties.
Hope this helps.
Del

[Robert]

To answer your original question: what you do now is read the manual, cover to cover.

[del]

Sorry about the double post on pinging, Dave's post wasn't there when I started my reply, honest!
Del

[Dave Liquorice]

No problem about the double post but it's not adviseable to use angle brackets around text as they and the contents get stripped out when sent as e-mail from the phorum. Looks OK on the web but not in mail, I've been caught before...

Eg:  Here is text1followed by  and text3.

Cheers
Dave.

[del]

Hi Dave,
Thanks for the tip, I didn't realise that it worked like that.
Cheers,
Del

[rhys]

Using Promethius, I get Network Neighbourhood up and the drive lights on Zeus light up - can't see Zeus in NN though.

Exactly the same happens when I use a DOS ping to Zeus and when I run putty.

It seems to me that SME has a built-in firewall. How do I get around it?

Rhys

[jm]

rhs

click start, then run and type:

ipconfig -all

place the output here, together with the results of the 'review configuration' screen from the SME server console (ie with a keyboad and monitor on the SME server)

jm

[rhys]

Is it possible to save the output to a DOS floppy in order to transfer it from machine to machine? It sounds like there'll be loads of data there. How would I do this? (I now have a floppy installed on the server).

[rhys]

From the MSDos prompt        

Microsoft(R) Windows 98
   (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1998.

C:\AWKWARD>ipconfig -all

Windows 98 IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . : PERSIUS
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 195.92.195.95
                                      195.92.195.94
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
        NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
        NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No

0 Ethernet adapter :

        Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
        Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 217.134.47.212
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . : 217.134.47.212
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
        Primary WINS Server . . . . :
        Secondary WINS Server . . . :
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 00:00:00
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 00:00:00

1 Ethernet adapter :

        Description . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink PCI
        Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-50-04-36-AB-00
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 169.254.72.239
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . :
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
        Primary WINS Server . . . . :
        Secondary WINS Server . . . :
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 04 06 03 20:58:07
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . :

From the Configuration window

Ethernet settings
Ethernet driver 1: Tulip
Ethernet driver 2:

External network settings
Operation mode: Server only - dedicated
Gateway IP address: 192.168.40.1

Local network settings
Local IP address: 192.168.40.1
Local subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
DHCP server: enabled, using host numbers from 192.168.40.65 to 192.168.40.250

Miscelleneous settings
Primary domain name: Sageworld
system name: zeus
external proxy : no
status reports: off
console mode: auto

contact details
contact email:
contact name:
contact organisation:

I hope that all makes sense to somebody. BTW I was online to the internet when I did the ipconfig. Zeus is never online - it doesn't have a modem.

Rhys

[Terry Brummell]

Well, I see a few problems.  Server Only?  IP of the "client" (persius) is not within a "private" IP range which this type of requirement would require.  See point 1, server only?
Even if you are running a modem connection from the "server" it should not be installed as "server only".

Are you in above your head here?

[rhys]

Yes, Terry, I'm way out of my depth at the moment. I'm learning this on the job. Persius runs a modem and handles the Internet at the moment. Zeus is intended primarily as a file server. Eventually, when I get that sorted out and working well, I might put a modem and use it as a gateway - but only after I understand how the rest works.

How should I solve the problems?

Rhys