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Server dials out each time mail is sent

Sasha Malic

Server dials out each time mail is sent
« on: September 13, 2000, 02:08:23 PM »
I have asked this question previously  few months ago, but without much of a response from the e-smith team.

When users on a network compose a message and send , the server by default
dials up immediately and sends the message instead of queueing the outgoing
messages for sheduled dial up delivery (like collection does now)

On a network with many users, the line is either up most of the time or is constantly
dialing and connecting.

In SA, Telkom charges more for the initial 3 minutes of connect time, so many short
calls become very costly.

Is there anyway of modifying the server to send mail on a schedule or even
an option to select immediate delivery/scheduled delivery ?

Gordon Rowell

RE: Server dials out each time mail is sent
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2000, 03:42:06 PM »
Sasha Malic wrote:

> I have asked this question previously  few months ago, but
> without much of a response from the e-smith team.

Hi Sasha,

As I previously replied in a personal email, we do not provide free support. We do provide
unlimited technical support to our subscription customers as well as providing the user-supported
bulletin boards such as this one.

e-smith staff post frequently to these boards, but we don't make any guarantee to answer
and or all of the questions in these forums. We really value the commitment which other members
of the e-smith developer community are making to answering questions and contributing changes.

We do have a mechanism for paid support and we have a product to develop. We could easily
spend all day answering free support questions, but that would not be in our best interest or the
best interests of the e-smith community as we would never get new releases out.

On a technical note, you don't need to start a new thread to revive discussion on an unanswered
question. Use the "search" feature to find the old thread and then post a follow-up. The thread will
come back to the active list.

Anyway, on to the question.

> When users on a network compose a message and send , the server
> by default dials up immediately and sends the message instead
> of queueing the outgoing messages for sheduled dial up delivery
> (like collection does now)
>
> On a network with many users, the line is either up most of the
> time or is constantly dialing and connecting.
>
> In SA, Telkom charges more for the initial 3 minutes of connect
> time, so many short calls become very costly.

This is true in various places, including Australia. True dial-on-demand is
an expensive option for these regions. Other telcos (e.g. North America) have
free local calls, so dial-on-demand is a perfect fit. I would like to see a module
which allows the dial-out regime to be tuned based on delay/flagfall/per-minute charge
to allow you to tune this for your telco regime.

> Is there anyway of modifying the server to send mail on a
> schedule or even an option to select immediate
> delivery/scheduled delivery ?

Naturally. Have a look at /etc/diald.filter for the current regime and modify to suit. I'm sure people
in locations such as South Africa and Australia would be interested in your modifications, so
please make them available.

Thanks,

Gordon

stephen noble

RE: Server dials out each time mail is sent
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2000, 05:24:57 PM »
>In SA, Telkom charges more for the initial 3 minutes of connect time, >so many short calls become very costly.


http://www.e-smith.org/modUpload.php3?op=NewLinks

e-smith-isp

i put together e-smith-isp because in australia i'm charged for each dialup,

>Is there anyway of modifying the server to send mail on a schedule or >even an option to select immediate delivery/scheduled delivery ?

the scheduling is one call out a day
that can be changed, i'm just keeping it simple to start


stephen