Thanks for the reply Norm - you must have gone back a few pages to come across it - it was posted almost 2 months ago!
I tried out the SSH client - but I still prefer my existing one - called Putty.. it's small and works perfectly... but anyway, back onto the topic.
Using SSH is how I have been getting to the e-smith manager up till now - and it works well enough for my liking, exept you miss out on the html prettyness

But - i have a few users with pop boxes on my machine which they check from the outside, and it would be nice to have the password page enabled for them so that they can change their login password.
E-smith has been setup so that the only allowed console login is root - admin goes straight to the control console. This means that the only way to access any settings to change from the outside is knowledge of the root password - and obviously I don't want to give this out.
I have tried opening up port 980 to the outside, and accessing it, but it still doesn't work. I've even mucked around with some of the access templates to try to remove the restrictions - but this just stuffed things up even more.. now I have given up.
Any ideas?
Tom