Topic: not able to bypass qmail?!

[thorsten greiner]

got a little problem...

because aol and t-online don't accept a dynamic-ip-adress as sender, i configured outlook to directly deliver to my email-providers smtp-server via smtp-auth. in sme 5.6 it was no trouble. my sme-box was bypassed and the mail was delivered to mail.gmx.net.

but with sme 6.0b3 i got this problem:

i still have outlook configured to send mail directly to mail.gmx.net, but by sme-box seems to catch that smtp-connection and handles it itself.

i checked it, when i configured sme to use mail.gmx.net as a delegated server. /var/log/qmail/current says:

Connected_to_213.165.64.20_but_sender_was_rejected./Remote_host_said:_451_{mp002}_Need_to_authenticate_via_POP3_first/

which is correct cause gmx needs smtp-auth. but why the hell does sme handle my outgoing mail, when i configured outlook to use mail.gmx.net for outgoing mail...?!

any ideas and any help welcome

cheers, thorsten

[alejandro]

Thorsten:
This is what I see (just my opinion)
Problem is your isp not sme.
mail.gmx.net is accepting your connection but is denying  relay on it's smtp server.
you should authenticate on mail.gmx.net as pop3 user before atempting to use smtp server.

[thorsten greiner]

hehe... yes... you're right in what you guess...  but let me tell you this:

1. outlook is still configured to send mail directly to mail.gmx.net
2. i reconfigured sme to see what will happen when i send mail with the configuration described is 1.
3. though outlook should send mail directly, the sme-box grabs that session
4. i found out _because_ i configured sme to send mail to mail.gmx.net and it gives me the errormessage 'pop3 before smtp'

so... problem still is, that my outgoing mail-server is _not_ the sme-box but my email-providers smtp-server, and still the sme-box hooks up sending outgoing mail, though it shouldn't. why is that?!

cheers, thorsten

[thorsten greiner]

ok... here's an addition to the above mentioned:

from my xp-box i did a ping to mail.gmx.net which resolves to the correct ip-adress. after that i did:

'telnet mail.gmx.net 25'

and that's what happened:

'220 broadway.tgr.tg mailfront ESMTP'

that's my sme-box answering... wonder why...

cheers, thorsten

[Matthias Redl]

Although this won't help you, I can only confirm that SME 6 is catching all SMTP connections.

This is especially interesting if qmail stops working, then you have no chance to send e-mails at all (I had that yesterday....don't update glibc to 2.3 or qmail won't work anymore)

Matthias

[Dan Brown]

Sounds like a bug report to smebugs@mitel.com is in order; this seems like a piece of bad design.

[Matthias Redl]

I just sent a bug report!

Matthias