Topic: Feedback about our chat system

[guest22]

Please feel free to add comments and/or suggestions about our chat system located here: http://no.longer.valid/phpwiki/index.php/On-line%20help

Thx!

[Larsson]

With the previus off-line state of contribs.org, and the request for financial support, I have to comment this.

WHY are contribs.org making yet another load on the server(s), at the same time as contribs.org (you and the rest of the "drivers" behind it) demand/request financial and technical support for making contribs.org continue ?
Perhaps I am the only one seeing some disharmony in this.

Honestly - wouldnt it give more sense to make the situation a little more stable, if the financial/technical situation is so bad ?

And - could any from contribs.org please respond to the threads regarding how to continue contrib.org - or at least reply if it is possible to make mirrors and/or move contrb.org to some of the space that is already sponsored.

If the situation really is as bad as stated on the frontpage, it makes no sense to make yet another "feature" on contribs.org. Or is this part of making contribs.org ready for sale (sale to who ? - the community who owns the data ? ) ?

Please - focus on making the situation about contribs.org stable, otherwise this is a dead end - and a dead project.
I guess im not the only one considering alternatives to the SME server. Not because of technical reasons - but simply because there is no roadmap, no (practical) leadership and a constant threat to this project (for one reason or another)

Im sorry if my questions offend you - it's not targeted at you but contribs.org as a whole, but somehow i find that the people behind contribs.org really need to settle this situation in a hurry.

If not - reply to the request and release the data contribs.org received from Mitel to the community, and let contribs.org rest in peace

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And to give you feedback on the chat system - gets a 404.

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Best regards
Larsson - Denmark

[guest22]

Larsson,

Thanks for your comments. Contribs.org has a little team that handles various aspects of it's existence. I myself deployed the chat system. Don't let the current discussions and polls destract you from our intensions as we have showed them the last years.

RequestedDeletion

[wyron]

Well, I got my oar in a little late, since I was timed out in the middle of my reply, but here it is anyway:
Aaaw, come off it, Larsson
Can't you allow for someone to take a couple of hours off work to play with a project of interest, instead of all the projects of need ?
He even brings this new 'child' to us to test and comment on.
And I say 'us' in a special sense here.
You know - contribs.org is us - the members and contributors and developers alike - all of us.
The funding- and various other -problems lie elsewhere, you know, what with the hosting, hardware availability and what have you.
Don't let the 'double roles' of some administrators in the core team cloud the issue for you. It's no big secret that Jeff Colemans company is running the site for us (for the time being, anyway).
I haven't tested the chatroom myself yet, and with your 404 'approval' I don't think I will either.

RequestedDeletion: Chatrooms are not among my favourites, but keep up the good work anyway !
I'm still looking forward to hearing from you on that other issue.

[hpe]

Please feel free to add comments and/or suggestions about our chat system located here: http://wiki.contribs.org/flashChat

Thx!

Gives 404, pls use http://no.longer.valid/flashChat instead.

BTW, I like the idea of improving communication means between peoples who *wants* to communicate.

-Hervé

[SSBN]

Good job on the chat. There are a lot of other things that need work but this will improve communication and that is never a bad thing. The community support has never faltered in my opinion even if the development is in the building stage. I would love to se an open form to recruit people and money in the chat and to discuss ideas. BTW did you ever make use of the donated VoIP system from MKC.

[jcoleman]

BTW did you ever make use of the donated VoIP system from MKC.

The folks at MKC provided a 30 day license for us to evaluate.  That was nice of them but there was no offer to donate a VoIP system from MKC.

The biggest issue we ran into was the fact that MKC does not support a routable protocal such as IAX.  SIP does not work well behind a firewall and NAT.  Not MKC's fault, just part of the SIP protocal.  Once we couldn't run it EXCEPT on a server/gateway, it was of far less interest to us for our usage or for our clients.

-jeff

[Reinhold]

Hsing,

(coming back to the original topic .-)

WhatshallIsay: "IT WORKS"  
It looks "nice"  
It could be a great help  
THANKS!

But when I tried only one "(away)" client was there so it probably needs MORE PROMOTION.
Also we could think about a regular chat session once a week ?

Regards
Reinhold

[mbachmann]

I am with Reinhold: moderated/announced chats once a week concerning an urgent topic is a good idea.

For chat-topics: suggestions can be made by the community and must be approved by contribs staff, maybe a poll a week in advance to find out. Or: chat topics are entirely the staff/docteam/devteam's concern.

Otherwise: the chat is good. (As Ray Mitchel puts it: "don't forget your purple glasses")

[tauphi100]

Greetings,

I used the chat for support, bounced a few ideas, and found it a very fun and informative experience. In regards to Larsson comments, I am happy to now have a forum that will respond to my requests, unlike the previous incarnation when it was hosted a mitel.  My experience getting help was like pulling teeth there.

Keep up the good work.

Maximus

[Larsson]

Hi all

I'm sorry to be so negative. Normally i'm a verry positive guy, but some of the recent events at contribs.org, has made me consider the current situation.
This reply is therefore a reply to the people reacting on why i was negative aboutn the chat system - and first of all - a reply to contribs.org.

I'm happy that somehow my feedback gave some results.

First of all - i'm happy that we now have a direct way to communicate. My feedback wasn't about that.
No argument about that a chat system can be a valuable feature to contribs.org.

It was just a question about how contribs.org can afford to put yet another load on the server(s), in respect to Jeff Colemanns latest post abount raising money.

It was a simple "cry in the wild", to get someones (contribs.org) attention to the current situation, when nobody from the people behind contribs.org has made any effort to answeer some of the questions in the others threads about Jeff Colemann request for financial help.
Beeing questions about the size of money needed or a possible solution with free hosting with greater bandwidth among others.

And thats it - and still remains.
Has the economical situation changed, since Jeff Colemanns request for financial support, has been removed from the frontpage ?
(And now i'm happy that i didn't put this reply in Jeff Colemanns thread - it would just have disapered like his thread)

And this is all what this reply was about.
Just a request to the people behind contribs.org to settle down, and reply to the questions asked - in respect to their request.
Isn't this a fair wish ?

As it is now, i find that some of the people behind contribs.org / SME Server only makes the situation worser with their "announcements" - or lets just call it noise, if the situation isn't as they say it is.

Secondly - I'm a verry happy user of the SME/Mitel server for several years, and would be sorry to see this distro to discontinue.

But - I have to be practical.

And as it seems now, this distro is about to die because the hosting of the contrib is unstable/unsafe, caused by (mis)information from the people behind contribs.org.

And no matter what - the people at contribs.org *has* to make a reply on Jeff Colemanns request.
It may be a confirmation that the situation is bad, that it just was a "panic" announcement on a "bad" day, or that contribs.org is considering moving to some the the sponsered space - or whatever
But - please answeer.

If not - i must consider contribs.org as one of Jeff Colemanns private projects. With the risk of the SME going to nowhereland.

And honestly - this is not what i want to happen with SME.

Do i have to say Pleaseeeeeee.....

Best regards
Larsson - Denmark
(I hope my english is better than your danish

[guest22]

our chat system located here:

Gives 404,

Corrected that, sorry. Go here: http://no.longer.valid/phpwiki/index.php/On-line%20help

[Swank]

Loved it, its looks great, just need some ppl to go there

J

[bearau]

chat looks very nice , could have used it for a charity project i'm working on for a local kids "half way house" (http://www.horizonhouse.org.au and http://www.horizonhouse.org.au/live for th chat area (usr/pass contribs/contribs))

the best i found was a java server/client setup.

on the future of contribs, distrubuted apache?

[chadself]

Oddly enought, the word "documentation" shows up as do#$%^&*entation when submitted in the chat program.

I think this is a great contrib (minus the fancy backgrounds and all) for small businesses like the ad agency I work for.  We'd use the functionality as a constant group collab function while working in the same way we use IM now. A great benefit is that the chats would be on our internal network and so not subject to the uncertainty of IM.