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ElFroggio

MaxMessagesize
« on: March 02, 2006, 06:41:12 PM »
I have 7.0Pre3, and I am trying to send an email with an attachment 275Mb [ZIP file]. SME does not accept it, at the end of the sending I get an error that it cannot find the SMTP server.

1. I use Thunderbird 1.5 [linux]
2. Set the MaxMessageSize to 50,000,000,000 and applyied it.
3. Checked the quotas [set to 0 = unlimited]
4. Checked the email settings: block executable content in e-mail attachments: Only PIFs are selected, the ZIPs are NOT.

Normal messages are OK.

Any suggestion?

Offline dsemuk

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2006, 11:27:02 PM »
275Mb email attachment!  You need to find an alternative method of transfering this file.

Email isn't intended to transfer files of that size, even if you manage to get it out from your network it will probably get rejected at the very first mail server outside your network.

Dave
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ElFroggio

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2006, 01:04:47 AM »
Quote from: "dsemuk"
275Mb email attachment! You need to find an alternative method of transfering this file.

Email isn't intended to transfer files of that size, even if you manage to get it out from your network it will probably get rejected at the very first mail server outside your network.

Thank you for the useless answer.
1. The end user does not have access to an FTP server
2. It's for gmail.com
3. Can't send it by CD because it is just for quick viewing of some data, then do further changes. This will be done multiple times.

The original question was about MaxMessageSize? Do you know anyhting about it? If not, why did you answer? :hammer:

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2006, 01:47:00 AM »
Correct answers are rarely useless.

Alternative methods are explained in the online manual found under the Documentation menu link to the left. Read up on i-bays and the many ways they can be used for collaboration.

You could also create a user account and grant this user SSH/SFTP access. Search for details.

Or simply drop your zip into your Primary website ibay and e-mail the URL.

Darrell

ElFroggio

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2006, 03:51:47 AM »
Quote from: "dmay"
You could also create a user account and grant this user SSH/SFTP access. Search for details.

No feasable, The end users would have to lrean new software and they cannot use FTP, blocked at the firewall.
Quote from: "dmay"
Or simply drop your zip into your Primary website ibay and e-mail the URL.

That could be an alternative, but this does not solve my problem of why can't I send an attachment as large as allowed by the maxmessagesize and within the limits of the quotes.

Is there some other configuration file that needs to be changed?

Offline dsemuk

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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2006, 09:07:08 AM »
Here you go, from Gmail...

"What's the maximum attachment size?
With Gmail, you can send and receive messages up to 10 megabytes (MB) in size. However, the precise amount allowable will depend on the attachment.

When you add an attachment, the size of a file may increase because transport encodings are automatically added. (Transport encodings are the information that allows your message to be safely sent and read.)

This means that in some cases, attachments that are 6 to 10MB in size may push the total message size above 10MB. When this happens, Gmail displays a warning that your message exceeds the 10MB limit. "

So you cannot use the Gmail account to receive that size of attachment, even if you can get your server to send it.

Darrell gave you some suggestions has to how you can host this file and allow the client to collect it.

Dave

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2006, 02:14:08 PM »
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No feasable, The end users would have to lrean new software and they cannot use FTP, blocked at the firewall.

FTP requires ports 20/21 + additional if using Passive mode. SFTP/SSH uses only port 22. These ports are easy to enable on SME. Same for external firewalls.

As for software, SFTP/SSH software is very easy to learn. Drag and drop file transfers. I favour Portable FileZilla which is easy to preconfigure, zip and provide to end users ready to go.

Darrell

Pacjack

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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2006, 03:35:50 PM »
I do understand the first reactions about this mail being way oversized.

Still I think it is interesting to discuss about the possibility of this idea to work. Why should this not be possible? Memory limits? Config options?

I'm sure we can all think of many alternatives, but that's not the subject of this topic ;)

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2006, 04:48:09 PM »
Quote from: "ElFroggio"

Any suggestion?


Apart from showing greater civility, I'd suggest you accurately describe the symptoms of your problem.

What exactly did you do?
What did you expect to happen?
What exactly did you see happen instead?
What do your log files say?