Topic: SME has Competition ?? ClarkeConnect now = ClearOS

[p-jones]

ebox-platform has put out version 1.4 with some killer features

Do they have a reliable backup system yet that a Linux noob can do a restore from ?

http://trac.ebox-platform.com/wiki/Document/HowTo/WhatToDoWhenRestoringABackupFails

I have had a look at this, and ClearOS also. Not because I am planning jumping ship but because I owe it to myself to know what else is happening around me. The water is definitely colder ...... IMHO, I think the water will warm up but not anytime soon.

[electroman00]

An interesting page on the ClearOS site.

http://www.clearfoundation.com/Foundation/core-team-honor-roll.html

Interesting group of Committee Members.

[Stefano]

Interesting group of Committee Members.

could you please explain what's so interesting? and, of course, what's the main difference between SME and ClearOS Foundation?

thank you

[electroman00]

Just wondering, did you look at the list of members?

Edit:corrected spelling

[Stefano]

Just wondering, did you look at the list of members?

of course, I did.. but you did not answer me.. I repeat my question: could you please explain us what's the main difference between SME and ClearOS Foundation?

TIA

[jjcuk]

ah  I just had a look and thought wow what a wide and varied spread , then noticed the SME members, are you suggesting we should infer something from this ?

[electroman00]

then noticed the SME members, are you suggesting we should infer something from this ?

Didn't suggest anything, just offered the awareness to everyone, of my research, however it appears you just made the suggestion to infer something.
If nothing else at this point, I do find the list interesting as you do.

[cactus]

ah  I just had a look and thought wow what a wide and varied spread , then noticed the SME members, are you suggesting we should infer something from this ?

Please do not feed electroman00. Once again he is steering of topic and posting irrelevant data.

Electroman00, if I see this wrong than please speak up plainly what was your intent with posting a referral to this list. IMHO you are trying to provoke a reaction, while keeping yourself from burning your fingers.
No need to do so, as in the true spirit of Open Source some of us are also helping out other Open Source projects, which is their own choice and should be regarded as a good thing.

The ClearOS Foundation gladly allowed us to use their samba RPMs for instance so we can perhaps finally release a version of SME Server with Windows 7 support (see bug 5425 comment 7 as well as later comments by Peter Baldwin).

[jjcuk]

The ClearOS Foundation gladly allowed us to use their samba RPMs for instance so we can perhaps finally release a version of SME Server with Windows 7 support (see bug 5425 comment 7 as well as later comments by Peter Baldwin).

That is Interesting Cactus thanks.

Thanks for you're "awareness" electroman00 ,  I t looks like as Cactus says then the two projects are sharing as all good open source projects do.

[electroman00]

Please do not feed electroman00. Once again he is steering of topic and posting irrelevant data.

Electroman00, if I see this wrong than please speak up plainly what was your intent with posting a referral to this list. IMHO you are trying to provoke a reaction, while keeping yourself from burning your fingers.
No need to do so, as in the true spirit of Open Source some of us are also helping out other Open Source projects, which is their own choice and should be regarded as a good thing.

The ClearOS Foundation gladly allowed us to use their samba RPMs for instance so we can perhaps finally release a version of SME Server with Windows 7 support (see bug 5425 comment 7 as well as later comments by Peter Baldwin).

Electroman00, if I see this wrong than please speak up plainly what was your intent with posting a referral to this list. IMHO you are trying to provoke a reaction, while keeping yourself from burning your fingers.

How you derived all that from my post is beyond certainly my understanding.
Distorted & Twisted Thinking at it's best.

The Roadmap to the future.

I will wish you all good luck in the future with your endevors.

Have a good day...

[Stefano]

How you derived all that from my post is beyond certainly my understanding.

I'm pretty sure that this simple request is not beyond your understanding: please explain us in simple words the difference between SME and ClearOS foundation. I'm sure you can do it.

[cactus]

How you derived all that from my post is beyond certainly my understanding.

It is the post in combination with your reputation caused by behavior in the past in these forums as well as your personal style of communication directed to community members on these forums as well as through other channels.
You have not shown a very positive attitude towards this community and it's philosophies IMHO.

[electroman00]

Distort & Twist Think and Say use Rhetoric, do whatever you want, I'm Done.
You folks have your reasons, great.

I have the Results

Grand Finale.

Fat Lady has sung for me.

Since you didn't comprehend the statment in my previous post here, it is again.

I will wish you all good luck in the future with your endevors.

Bye

[pcbaldwin]

Sorry about adding to this already wandering thread, but I need to jump in to end some of the speculation...

John's an old friend of mine. And I see him across the room at the Linux Plumbers Conference. I'll go and have a chat with him and see what they are up to

The John referenced in Charlie's quote is John Terpstra -- he's a Samba team member and President of ClearFoundation.  The chat was the start of a more open communications channel amongst some of the folks at SME Server and ClearFoundation.  As cactus mentioned, this lead to new opportunities to cooperate.  Samba, the build systems and the installer are just some of the technical topics that have been discussed, albeit in a very informal and fragmented way.

How shallow or deep will the level of co-operation go?  (shrugs)  Don't know, I'm not a psychic!  I do know that the ClearFoundation Committee certainly appreciates the perspective provided by a cross section of members of the SME community.
 
Peter Baldwin
ClearOS Manager

[dgs]

The chat was the start of a more open communications channel amongst some of the folks at SME Server and ClearFoundation.  As cactus mentioned, this lead to new opportunities to cooperate.

A cooperation between platforms that clearly are striving towards similar ends can only be a good thing for both.

How shallow or deep will the level of cooperation go?  (shrugs)  Don't know, I'm not a psychic!  I do know that the ClearFoundation Committee certainly appreciates the perspective provided by a cross section of members of the SME community.

Both packages have strengths and weaknesses that differ from each other. My hope is for cooperation and not competition.  None of the polarised, jumping ship attitudes, expressed elsewhere in this thread are helpful, but these attempts at cooperation demonstrate a real future for both packages.

_{That's my 2 bobs worth from way back here in the cheap seats.}