Topic: Question Ibay

[MM]

Step 3: open up Windows Explorer and navigate to the C:\TEMP directory and highlight the file 'e-smith-aliases-0.3-1.noarch.rpm' and choose Edit > Copy. Next navigate to the e-smith server and the i-bay created above via Network Neighborhood (\e-smith-server\rpm\files) and choose Edit > Paste to copy the file to the subdirectory files in the RPM i-bay

I just went to a link that another gentleman kindly provided for us that I think saves a lot of people from posting stuff over and over again in regards to the same topic

There is a step 3 involved with creating an ibay via Network Neighbourhood.
How does an Ibay configure network neighbourhood automatically.


Sorry I feel like I'm missing a step and sorry again if it's located somewhere in the docs.............peace

[Darren]

are you trying to create an ibay (use server admin)
or connect to one      \e-smith server\ibay
or map a drive to an ibay

\e-smith server\
right click on ibay and select map network drive
select drive and click ok

otherwise tell us what you are trying to do

[MM]

....just trying to follow the instructions that were given here
http://www.star-support.com/downloads/mitel/howto/rpm-howto.htm

I'm used to the old school way of installing rpm's but would really like to use the ibay method for the purpose of functionality. I mean if it's there I should learn how to work with it.

Thanks for the help

[Darren]

this is the old school method with a bit of crap at the begining
for starters if you are using sme 5 or greater you can't use telnet but you can use ssh.
an example client is called putty
once you have enabled ssh from the server-manager
login using ssh and your root user and password
then you can either run from there which would be
rpm -Uvh home/e-smith/files/ibays/rpm/files/*.rpm

or
 you can move into the directory
cd /home/e-smith/files/ibays/rpm/files/
then rpm -Uvh *.rpm

but if your use to old school you should be right after you have ssh access

[MM]

Step 3: open up Windows Explorer and navigate to the C:\TEMP directory and highlight the file 'e-smith-aliases-0.3-1.noarch.rpm' and choose Edit > Copy. Next navigate to the e-smith server and the i-bay created above via Network Neighborhood (\e-smith-server\rpm\files) and choose Edit > Paste to copy the file to the subdirectory files in the RPM i-bay


But still if I had to download it into my WINDOWS C:\ drive I would need network neighbourhood to be able to get into SME and MOVE the files from C: into the IBAY

Can you give me the lowdown on how something like that is done. We are really getting into the parms of how SAMBA works but IBAY is still a bit new to me. I guess I just don't want to make a mistake.

Thanks again

[Tim Jones]

First, understand that an iBay is just a "secluded" location on your SME server.  When you create pseudo/virtual domains, an iBay directory is created to contain the contents of that domain's web and ftp environment.  For example, if you had the virtual domains guitars.net, keyboards.net, and midi.net, you would have three directories in the ibay directory called (assuming you named them such) guitars, keyboards, and midi:

/home/e-smith/files/ibays/-
                                             |-guitars/
                                                         |-files/
                                                         |-cgi-bin/
                                                         |-html/
                                             |-keyboards/
                                                         |-files/
                                                         |-cgi-bin/
                                                         |-html/
                                             |-midi/-
                                                         |-files/
                                                         |-cgi-bin/
                                                         |-html/

If you use your web browser and open www.guitars.net, you will be delivered the contents of the above .../guitars/html/ directory.

The idea behind the rpm iBay is to provide a central repository for the old RPM format updates.

If you copy RPM files into this directory (which is what all of those instructions you reference are discussing - just getting the files ONTO the SME server), you must then log in to the SME server via SSH and use rpm to install them.  As Darren indicated, use:

    rpm -Uhv *.rpm

to upgrade the system with ALL of the rpm files in the current directory.

[Bill Talcott]

You're not actually creating the i-bay via Network Neighborhood. You're copying the files using Network Neighborhood from the Windows PC to a previously-created i-bay on the SME.

http://www.e-smith.org/docs/manual/5.1/i-bays.html has more info on i-bays. Like the others said, i-bays are just shared areas. The HowTo you are reading simply uses NN and an i-bay to transfer the RPM to the server, so you can install it. Once you get it copied to the server, you still have to install it "the old way". It just makes it easier for non-Linux people by having to do less on the server... If you're comfortable with it, you can also use WinSCP2 to transfer files to and from the server.

[MM]

Perfect I understood all of that right from the start.
I just kept thinking that there was a step they missed when connecting network neighbourhood to the sme server. I understand ibays are a seperate entity and I know how to ssh into them, it's the network neighbourhood part that thows me of.

I mean I just can't go into network neighbourhood and do a query for other machines. I have to define a PATH do I not?

Thanks

[Tim Jones]

MM wrote:
>
> I mean I just can't go into network neighbourhood and do a
> query for other machines. I have to define a PATH do I not?
>
Not necessarily.  Generally, you visit an ibay via a virtual domain as I described.  If you've created things properly, when you open your "My Network Places" or "Network Neighborhood" from the desktop, you should see any ibays that are available on the server.  For instance, when I open "My Network Places" on my Win2K box here, I see our SME (in "Computers Near Me) and on it I see the three ibays that I created when I installed.  If for somereason the SME doesn't show up when you open the Netork browser, you may need to check the SME's Windows WORKGROUP setting.  If the setting is the same as the workgroup into which you've placed your other Windows systems, it should show up in the browse list with no further interaction.

I didn't have to make any changes to anything on the Win2K system or the SME server.