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Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first

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Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« on: November 12, 2012, 07:29:10 AM »
As the "Subject Stated";Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
I've changed ISP's and now I have this,
Can't send or receive email.
ISP is Bell

it was working fine with my Rogers ISP.

Been searching the forums all night, if someone can assist that would be appreciated.

Josip

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« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 08:07:06 AM by mary »
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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2012, 04:50:04 AM »
Well I've tried all.

I just think that Bell is blocking all SMTP Requests.

I've opened the following;
POP3 - port 110
IMAP - port 143
SMTP - port 25
HTTP - port 80
SecPOP3 - port 110
IMAP - port 143
SMTP - port 25
HTTP - port 80
Secure SMTP (SSMTP) - port 465
Secure IMAP (IMAP4-SSL) - port 585
IMAP4 over SSL (IMAPS) - port 993
Secure POP3 (SSL-POP) - port 995ure SMTP (SSMTP) - port 465
Secure IMAP (IMAP4-SSL) - port 585
IMAP4 over SSL (IMAPS) - port 993
Secure POP3 (SSL-POP) - port 995

Can someone verify In Canada, that the mail server works on Bell with the above.
I'm getting beat-up here bad.

with the changes below I'm not getting the ;
Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first

or any failures but then again I'm not receiving and or able to send e-mail

Thanks again,
Josip

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2012, 07:39:27 AM »
gpptsi

From a workstation behind your sme server gateway (on the LAN) go to grc.com and do a port scan to see what really is open.
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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2012, 03:18:14 AM »
Mary,

thanks, appears that by an act of GOD everything is now working.... Not really sure how or why.

It works I ever figure out how and why I will post.

But thanks for the help.

Thanks,
Josip

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2012, 09:27:08 PM »
Ok, this is what I'm getting now...
Incoming mail is fine, outgoing is still an issue but no error only after a week or so....

I've read something about chaining the location from 127.0.0.1 to Localhost in the file, but there is some contradiction as the notes say that this is to be fixed with ver 8.

If anyone knows that would be great.

BTW,
THis only happens in WEBMAIL and over my cellular, as outlook is linked to by-pass and connect to BELL's SMTP with my account information, but then again my account information is setup in server-manager.......
_________________________________________________________________________

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at xxxxxxxxx.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<XXXXXX@gmail.com>:
Connected to 127.0.0.1 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.


--- Below this line is a copy of the message.

Return-Path: <XXXX@xxxxxx.org>
Received: (qmail 5070 invoked by uid 453); 19 Nov 2012 23:27:22 -0000
Received: from localhost (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1)
    by xxxxxxx.org (qpsmtpd/0.84) with ESMTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:27:22 -0500
Received: from bas2-cooksville01-2925346221.dsl.bell.ca
 (bas2-cooksville01-2925346221.dsl.bell.ca [174.93.61.173]) by xxxxx.org
 (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:27:22 -0500
Message-ID: <20121119182722.96462pgx7cy4azwg@xxxxxxx.org>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:27:22 -0500
From: xxxxx@xxxxx.org
To: xxxxxx@gmail.com
Subject: test from xxxxxx.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset=ISO-8859-1;
 DelSp="Yes";
 format="flowed"
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.9)
X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on xxxxxx.org

sdfsfsdfsdf
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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2012, 09:40:06 AM »
gpptsi

I suggest you search both the Forums & Bugzilla on
STARTTLS


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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2012, 04:12:31 PM »
Mary,

Thanks I did, thats why I'm asking......
There is no CLEAR answer... If someone can point me to the answer that would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2012, 05:32:39 PM »
gpptsi

Is it this ?
http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6922

I suggest you post a new bug in bugzilla, as your problem will need a fix, if one is not already existing. The devs will tell you.
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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2012, 05:40:31 PM »
That looks like the issue.
there is a note that there a scrip will be changed, at least the question was asked..

I'll open a new bug and reference this one..

Thanks,

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2012, 09:38:29 PM »
That looks like the issue.
there is a note that there a scrip will be changed, at least the question was asked..

I'll open a new bug and reference this one..

Thanks,

Please provide detail of the Bug (URL) when done.
Thanks.
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If it does not work out of the box, please fill in a Bug Report @ Bugzilla (http://bugs.contribs.org)  - check: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help .  Thanks.

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2012, 04:51:04 AM »
I suggest you search both the Forums & Bugzilla on
STARTTLS

No, that's not relevant - or no longer relevant at least. gppti is posting about multiple issues, without starting a new thread.

This:

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Connected to 127.0.0.1 but greeting failed.
Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available

has nothing to do with STARTTLS. It's also very straighforward. There is an SMTPSmartHost configured, using authentication, and SME server wasn't able to establish a connection on port 25 to that server. Either the configured SmartHost isn't running a mail server and is black-holing traffic, or the ISP is filtering port 25 outbound traffic (and gppti is not trying to use the ISP's mail server, but is trying to use some other mail server).

gppti, you have to relay your outbound mail via a server which is accessible to you from your Internet connection. Check here - I think you should be using port 465, and server smtpa.bellnet.ca:

http://www.bell.ca/shop/Sme.Customer.IA0014.page

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2012, 10:58:16 PM »
Ok,

config set SMTPSmartHost "smtpa.bellnet.ca:456"
signal-event email-update

Server-Manager has been updated to reflect I will attempt to see..regarding user name and password with authentication.

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 05:52:39 AM »
Still not working from webmail..

has this been modified;
Net::SSLGlue::SMTP rather than Net::SMTP::SSL.

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Re: Remote host said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2012, 06:27:15 AM »
Still not working from webmail..

"Still not working" is a useless bug report.

Webmail should be no different to any other method of sending mail.