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Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card

Offline ghorst352

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Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« on: April 16, 2013, 05:34:02 PM »
OS Ver. SME Server 8.0


I like to know if anybody has any recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card.  The issue for me is that the Centos 5 HCL is lacking for any info in regards to PCI-E USB 3.0 cards from what I can see.  Additionally, there are a plethora of these cards that are not Linux compatible.  If you are reading this and you currently use SME Server 8.0 with a PCI-E USB 3.0 card please let me know the make/model.

Thanks.  8)

Offline Stefano

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 06:23:23 PM »
did you read this:

http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=28472&start=0

a little search with google leads me to the fact that xHCI is not supported by Centos5 kernel

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 06:46:41 PM »
Yeah that was the first article I "skimmed" over so apparently I missed that nfo, additionally I found this article http://news.softpedia.com/news/Linux-Kernel-2-6-31-Has-USB-3-0-Support-121287.shtml.  This information sucks hugely, what a limitation, as now I have to investigate dumping SME Server just to accomplish the simple task of using USB 3.0 external drives.

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 06:48:53 PM »
What is the most probable release date of SME Server 9?

Offline Stefano

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 06:56:56 PM »
What is the most probable release date of SME Server 9?

short answer: when it will be ready
long one: read above

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 06:58:53 PM »
The only option I see is to virtualize a server within SME Server that has the supported Kernel version which is IMHO a huge workaround for just trying to utilize usb 3.0 but I guess that is the route I will have to take.

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 07:03:52 PM »
I appreciate the smart ass reply.  Considering it's alpha now I guess I could calculate per previous releases from the time-frame of alpha to final for a guesstimate but I think the better option is to dump the dinosaur. 

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 08:17:21 PM »
One way to lose customers is talk down to customers and throw out smart ass comments.  I don't need to put up with this kind of sh*t from anybody in my business.  I will consider 86'ng all of my SME boxes for this constant lack of professional support that always comes with some kind of smart ass reply.  The only person I have ever dealt with that knows how to respond like an adult is Mary, "the only person".

Offline Stefano

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 11:29:44 PM »
One way to lose customers is talk down to customers and throw out smart ass comments.  I don't need to put up with this kind of sh*t from anybody in my business.  I will consider 86'ng all of my SME boxes for this constant lack of professional support that always comes with some kind of smart ass reply.  The only person I have ever dealt with that knows how to respond like an adult is Mary, "the only person".

could you please elaborate a bit more?
where's the lack of professional support?
did you search a bit for previous messages about data release?
one thing you should know is that there's no release data, there were no release data in the past and we don't know it it will be in the future..

I would add that since english is not my mother tongue it's quite difficult for me to understand your slang..

finally, here we have the list of the topics you started since you come here:
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48095.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48112.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48126.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48157.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48163.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48183.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48464.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48528.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48594.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48639.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48666.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48767.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,48971.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49019.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49084.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49178.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49355.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49370.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49436.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49506.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49515.0.html
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,49536.0.html

they are not all the topics you opened btw..

could you please read all of them (yes, I did it) and tell us where and when you did not get a "professional support"?
could you please tell us how many SME servers are you running too?
finally, could you please tell us how much time you spent in the past to aswer question and not only to make question?
what about donation?

maybe I'm a "smart ass" but I'm quite sure you have no right to have such an attitude..

Offline purvis

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2013, 01:15:14 AM »
Some usb interfaces can use SMART.
I would look into that as well

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2013, 03:14:14 AM »
bhay3s

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The only person I have ever dealt with that knows how to respond like an adult is Mary, "the only person".

This is mary, I am fickle & decided to use my middle name janet, you know us ladies, a new handbag every week. I hope you do not mind my comments below, they are well intended.

I will take your comment about me as being serious (rather than sarcastic), as there have been a few people who are less than happy with my approach to answering questions.

Bhay3s, I hope I can defuse your emotional & mental upset.
Stefano's answer is commonly how that all important question "When will the next sme be released" is answered.
Your reaction is an "over reaction" & I would ask you to cool down.
It was just a light hearted answer, as no one really knows when sme9 will be ready. The sme server project runs on volunteer effort & the development & other tasks will be completed when volunteers come forward & do them, there is no timeline or deadline, as no one can force volunteers to do the work.

I have observed for over 10 years in these forums that people often misinterpret the intent or meaning of another persons post, & on many occasions "take offence" where there was no offence ever meant or intended. People are from different language, racial & cultural backgrounds, & what is seemingly innocent & harmless words in one country, can be taken to be offensive in another country, and remember this is only how the words are interpreted by the reader, as the orginal poster never meant to offend anyone. Note also the original poster has no knowledge that certain words or phrases or styles of answering are or would be offensive, as to them the words are simple & have a plain meaning eg "The software will be ready when it is ready", and if you want a longer description of what that means then read the sentence again in order to emphasize the original comment, "I am really really saying that the software will be ready when it is ready", for the reasons given above.

So please cool down & do not become emotional, try to understand why the poster wrote what they wrote, rather than blowing your steam valve automatically because you felt offended.

There is absolutely no need whatsoever for you to chastise stefano the way you have or to judge sme & it's supporters the way you have.

A small apology from you would be appropriate eg "Sorry I misunderstood your answer due to language & cultural differences".

The world needs to be a more mellow place & humans must interact more politely towards each other, no one wants a world war 3 just because we misunderstood what the other person said.
Each of us individually must contribute to peace, & it starts on a personal level of interaction between our fellow human beings no matter what they say or do or where they are from.
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 06:27:21 AM »
I get dismayed when I read posts like this. Stefano doesn't deserve to be insulted, he is here day after day answering questions without financial reward from what I gather. His response that it will be done when it's done, IMHO is proper for a solution provided by volunteers. I guess YMMV.

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2013, 12:53:41 PM »
Hey Guys, My apologies to everybody and especially (Stefano).  Yes, I was a bit over the top and emotional and yes I let that get the best of me.  Yesterday was Monday and I just didn't need something to crawl up my sleeve and it did.  THE SINCEREST APOLOGY TO STEFANO !!!

Only thing I was trying to solve here was replacing my current external USB 2.0 hard drives on 2 of my SME Boxes with 3.0.  However after much thinking I decided a much better approach was to purchase hot swappable drives bays which would give me obviously faster read/write rates.  We currently use external drives for offsite backups and I had to change this because the backups where taking way too long as my total network backup size is 2TB.  Obviously had I sat there and just thought about it I would of came to the easy conclusion of just using hot swappable drives, DUH.

Anyways I was and idiot and I am not perfect in anyway and I make mistakes so here again I apologize to all of you.


Sincerely,
-Bhay3s

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2013, 12:57:27 PM »
Anyways I was and idiot and I am not perfect in anyway and I make mistakes so here again I apologize to all of you.

you are welcome, :-)

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Re: Recommendations on a PCI-E USB 3.0 card
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 09:55:33 AM »
I know this not a direct answer to the original question.
But maybe a possibility of finding a good usb 3.0 connection may come from seeing what
usb equipment smartmontools can use and what way(option) smartmontools has  to use to access those drives or devices.

I have not researched the usb3.0, smartmontools, with linux but here is a start.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices