Topic: can't find SME from LAN (network neighbourhood)

[Charlie Brady]

Lindsay wrote:

> Charlie, all the installs I've heard about since I first
> looked at SMEserver are behind a firewall and most of those
> are behind IPCop.

Quite unusual in my experience.

> I've found with software that support is *everything*.

I don't provide support, and moreover Mitel doesn't support its customers via this board. Anything anyone posts here is a voluntary and personal (as opposed to corporate) contribution.

Regards

Charlie

[Prabhjot Gill]

I experienced similar problem when my Windows 98 & Windows XP machines could not find SME server. When I changed their WORKGROUP to the same as SME, the problem was resolved.

SME & other workstations shoudl be in the same workgroup.


Thanks.

[Schotty]

This is not correct. SME (or any other server) does not have to be in the same domain as the clients.
With a little understanding of the TCP/IP Protocoll and domain working then this would be obvious.

With Lindsays case it is a matter of routing broadcasts. The SME sends a broadcast to the master browser (in this case the sme server -if its on his own in the orange segment), and the clients dont get his browser list.

If you switch on clients and the sme server and they arnt in the same domain then before the browser list fron sme gets to the clients can take some time....
To reduce this time you have to set up neworking properly - at least one domain will have to have a wins server and ALL computers in both domains have to use the wins server -or 2 wins server and these wins server have to "swap" info....

I dont really like the way this discussion has ended.
Before i moan i would like to point out that i dont have a connection with e-smith other than being a keen user of it.
Instead of concentrating on your problem u (lindsay) raised a mean tone in a couple of messages what u posted....

this is quite a common "newbie effect" .....software is released for nothing and the skys the limit.....they want free support as well.

I might try that oneday.....Ill buy a plane and post somewhere ive got a plane how do i fly it.......


Well ill go now ...hope u manage to solve ur problem......... Im not sure but u could use wins on the ip-cop too.......u have to tell ur clients and sme server to use it though.

even though u have only 7 clients i would use the domain model. R more clienst planned? with the domain modell administration is easier.....
But wait how the hell have u got a domain when u have no server in ur segment??

hmmm

[Ray Mitchell]

Dear all
Can anyone explain this please.
As I understand it sme server is a Firewall and from the documentation published and the efforts of the developers  it seems a pretty good one.

Why does one use, and what are the advantages of, separate Firewall products such as IpCop (or others).
Thanks
Ray Mitchell

[schotty]

Hi!!!

Now i dont want to be flamed from e-smith (i dont work for e-smith) but i do recomend and use there server! Now i use smoothwall because of its easy configuration (install-use-forget). Also i dont quite like the idea of a data server being directly in the internet -I use a dmz for all my servers.

I have not used the firewall function of e-smith so i cannot really say if it is good or bad.


hope to have helped

schotty