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Request for assistance (HTML(5))

Offline Xavier.A

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2015, 12:08:57 PM »
Xavier.A, welcome back..

if you read all the posts, you'd see a bug reference..
please post there your suggestions and, of course, your solution,
thank you

I won't do that stephano but i can give you a starter file :

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<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8">
<!-- Always force latest IE rendering engine (even in intranet) & Chrome Frame
Remove this if you use the .htaccess -->
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge,chrome=1">
<title>Information Bay</title>
<meta name="description" content="ibay index file">
<meta name="author" content="html5 students">
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width; initial-scale=1.0">
<!-- Custom styles for this template -->
<link href="" rel="stylesheet">
<!-- HTML5 shim and Respond.js for IE8 support of HTML5 elements and media queries -->
<!--[if lt IE 9]>
<script src="https://oss.maxcdn.com/html5shiv/3.7.2/html5shiv.min.js"></script>
<script src="https://oss.maxcdn.com/respond/1.4.2/respond.min.js"></script>
<![endif]-->
<!-- Replace favicon.ico & apple-touch-icon.png in the root of your domain and delete these references -->
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico">
<link rel="apple-touch-icon" href="/apple-touch-icon.png">
</head>

<body>
<div>
<header>
<h1>Information Bay</h1>
</header>
<nav>
&nbsp;
</nav>
<div>
This information bay has not yet been customized.
</div>
<footer>
<p>
&copy; Copyright by html5 students
</p>
</footer>
</div>
</body>
</html>

and now you have to add a css3 file with or without fluid grid (responsive/adaptive css) but maybe you should try to re-use the code from the server manager, I mean a new css from a good framework like :

Stefano, I'm still thinking that your team could find some help from IT teachers and their students but you have to ask in the good way, I mean an academic way....It's not so hard, just try and maybe all over the world you will receive positive answers !

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Offline Stefano

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2015, 12:13:11 PM »
Xavier.. the time you spent here could be well spent in bugzilla.

in any case thank you for your contribute.

I notice you don't loose a single occasion to add OT considerations; I ask you (kindly, ATM) to cease it, thank you

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2015, 07:32:51 PM »
thanks for all the info, this dog not to old to learn some new tricks
will give it a shot, as i meantioned by no means a guru.
haven't done any html design for about ten years mostly use wordpress now.
So let me see what i can come up with
thanks
john

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2015, 09:19:20 PM »
To all reading this thread

We shouldn't remove the message explaining that the ibay hasn't been customized yet.

I agree with Daniel. The original intention of the page has now been (proposed) changed to an advertisement for SME server, whereas it is really meant to be a blank starter index page for an Internet access enabled ibay website.

Where is the message "This site is under construction" ?

Personally I think this effort is a waste of time. The page will be replaced almost immediately by real web site pages that the user creates for the web site.
I do not see the point of making a "fancy" page which will have little or no practical use.

If the idea or intention was to make a starter template page, that a less skilled html user could create a basic nice single page startup website from, then that would be more useful, but again would still have limited use.

I do not wish to advertise to hackers what type of webserver I am using, ie the big Koozali brand name & logo,  as this only assists them to find vulnerable ways to hack my server.

« Last Edit: April 08, 2015, 09:22:36 PM by janet »
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2015, 05:13:23 PM »
hi i have a question i need a bit of help with.

when primary or an ibay is created, The index.html file is auto created for that ibay.

When this ibay is created, if we have more than one file or sub directories are needed will they also be created.

for example, if we include a logo file or 2 or more files, index.html, second.html, third.html, logo.png or /images logo.png etc.
favicon  etc.
Will these file all be created for the ibay or will it only create the index.html file.

thanks
john


guest22

Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2015, 06:49:51 PM »
hi i have a question i need a bit of help with.

when primary or an ibay is created, The index.html file is auto created for that ibay.

When this ibay is created, if we have more than one file or sub directories are needed will they also be created.


That would require a template change, but that is easily done once we agree on the design of the landing pages.

Offline Xavier.A

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2015, 08:12:47 PM »
hi all,

because i'm agree with CB, DB and Janet, i think you shouldn't change primary and new ibay. They should stay as simple as possible to be easy to maintain in the time (KISS principle).
examples :

Anyway you are right to try to change a little bit the things, so i will share with you some easy concepts in few webpages (a very little part of our work on server web UI) the BS themes are from https://bootswatch.com/ and all the templates are responsive :

Maybe it 's not what you really want but you could grab there some ideas  :-)

A+

P.S: Sorry if I'm OT again.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2015, 08:40:00 PM by Xavier.A »
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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2015, 07:26:56 PM »
If you add the code to the bug I'll do a patch to try.
...
1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

If you love SME and don't want to lose it, join in: http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation

guest22

Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2015, 03:20:52 AM »
The HTML(5) pages can not contain any links to / dependencies on external (java) scripts, images or any other resource.

Offline Xavier.A

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2015, 12:29:58 PM »
If you add the code to the bug I'll do a patch to try.
who are you talking about ?

The HTML(5) pages can not contain any links to / dependencies on external (java) scripts, images or any other resource.
Could you be more precise? what is external dependencies for you? Every code/pic/font can be internalized or packaged in a rpm/deb !

example for a webfont (RH /DEBIAN) :
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mkdir -p $HOME/src/webfonts
cd $HOME/src/webfonts
wget -O opensans.woff http://themes.googleusercontent.com/static/fonts/opensans/v6/cJZKeOuBrn4kERxqtaUH3T8E0i7KZn-EPnyo3HZu7kw.woff;
wget https://raw.github.com/hanikesn/woff2otf/master/woff2otf.py;
python woff2otf.py opensans.woff opensans.ttf;
ls -l
now the ttf file can be packaged and the woff file can be moved to the fonts subdirectory in your css theme template.

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Offline Stefano

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2015, 12:41:21 PM »
guys, I'm gonna lock this topic.. I see many people posting here instead of adding their code in bugzilla..
last advice, thank you all

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2015, 12:47:59 PM »
ok, it's up to you !

chao !

« Last Edit: April 22, 2015, 12:54:11 PM by Xavier.A »
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Offline Stefano

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2015, 12:55:08 PM »
Xavier: you've been asked to post and give your contribute in bugzilla so many times I can't either remember.
you said NO all the times..
now you don't wanto to partecipate but you're posting here..

sincerely, I (but not only me) can't understand you.. you're still around here and we're all happy for it.. could we find a way to cohoperate?

there's an open bug for this particular feature e not all the devs read the forums.. so, why should you (generally speaking) post the same things twice? why should I (generally speaking) waste time copying your code from here to paste it there?

I ask you another time: wolud you please post all your code and suggestions here:
http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8803
please?

I can't see what else we (all) can do to help you to help us..

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2015, 01:05:44 PM »
who are you talking about ?
Anyone :-)

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Could you be more precise? what is external dependencies for you? Every code/pic/font can be internalized or packaged in a rpm/deb !

example for a webfont (RH /DEBIAN) :

Code: [Select]
mkdir -p $HOME/src/webfonts
cd $HOME/src/webfonts
wget -O opensans.woff http://themes.googleusercontent.com/static/fonts/opensans/v6/cJZKeOuBrn4kERxqtaUH3T8E0i7KZn-EPnyo3HZu7kw.woff;
wget https://raw.github.com/hanikesn/woff2otf/master/woff2otf.py;
python woff2otf.py opensans.woff opensans.ttf;
ls -l

now the ttf file can be packaged and the woff file can be moved to the fonts subdirectory in your css theme template.

Yes, font files can indeed be downloaded and packaged but the page should have no external references.

I think lines like this are what are being referred too :
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<script src="https://oss.maxcdn.com/html5shiv/3.7.2/html5shiv.min.js"></script>
<script src="https://oss.maxcdn.com/respond/1.4.2/respond.min.js"></script>

As advised by Stefano, please add any code or comments to the bug tracker and we can then try to implement it there.

Hawk, if you zip up your files and add them as an attachment to the track I can take a look for you.

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1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

If you love SME and don't want to lose it, join in: http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation

Offline Xavier.A

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Re: Request for assistance (HTML(5))
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2015, 02:12:10 PM »
@Stefano
I told you that i'm agree with you...but there are conditions !
Last year, after i made this page http://www.koozali.org/partners/find-a-partner for Steph, there was no more partners who wanted to collaborate with Koozali. So i asked you to change your economic model.
I have only ask your team to build a store for developpers, that's really the last conditon for me.
I don't believe in free work and i know that you are not all agree with this. That's all for me.

@ReetIP
the code is
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<!-- HTML5 shim and Respond.js for IE8 support of HTML5 elements and media queries -->
<!--[if lt IE 9]>
<script src="https://oss.maxcdn.com/html5shiv/3.7.2/html5shiv.min.js"></script>
<script src="https://oss.maxcdn.com/respond/1.4.2/respond.min.js"></script>
<![endif]-->
do you see why? Javascript files can be packaged but it 's not realy a good idea to promote the use of IE for GNU/Linux (server) users. It's up to you too.

bye



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