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Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...

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Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« on: June 30, 2024, 06:42:56 PM »
=== URGENT NOTICE:
=== As per June 30th 2024, SME Server 10 is obsolete, and potentially INSECURE.
=== Failure to upgrade may lead to the compromise of this server.
=== NO support will be offered for any issue found with this installed version.
=== Please migrate IMMEDIATELY to Koozali SME Server 11 or higher version.
=== Visit https://wiki.koozali.org/SME_Server:Download

Looks to me as if Red Hat has put an end to Centos, leaving only Fedora and a hand full of alternatives, but will there be an SME version 11?

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2024, 03:25:01 AM »
In the pipeline, have a read of the updates posted by JP and John Crisp re SME11
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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2024, 04:00:05 AM »
thank you. Before posting, I did do a quick search in announcements and 10.1 forums for a topic that mentioned 11. I see it now, sorry for the noise.

btw, I would vote for a corporate backed distro, Ive used one for many years for production servers, (almost) always stable, up to date, and widely used so bugs are found fairly quickly.

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2024, 11:10:42 AM »
i actually posted this in March

https://forums.koozali.org/index.php/topic,55139.0.html

I have been doing regular updates since - "view from the coalface"

Note there is NO ISO yet available for SME v11.

You have to manually install Rocky and then add the SME packages to test.

We think the first Alpha ISOs will be out in Autumn.

Note this is open source.

It is the responsibility of everyone to help and get involved, even if it is just to answer posts here.

If you want to get get involved then ask me for a Rocket.Chat account and you can talk to us directly and help test SME v11. We need all the help we can get!
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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2024, 07:01:53 PM »
i actually posted this in March

https://forums.koozali.org/index.php/topic,55139.0.html

I have been doing regular updates since - "view from the coalface"

Note there is NO ISO yet available for SME v11.

You have to manually install Rocky and then add the SME packages to test.

We think the first Alpha ISOs will be out in Autumn.

Note this is open source.

It is the responsibility of everyone to help and get involved, even if it is just to answer posts here.

If you want to get get involved then ask me for a Rocket.Chat account and you can talk to us directly and help test SME v11. We need all the help we can get!
I'm afraid I would have no idea how to add SME files to a Rocky distro so I'll have to wait until Alpha is released before I could even try testing.

However, might I suggest adding an SME Server 11.x news section to the forum so it will be easier to keep up to date on SME 11 specific information.

And I do have one suggestion for those who actually know how to program such things: Could you make the SME 11 backup work the way the old DAR2 contribution did? DAR2 was nice because you could create multiple scheduled backups as well as manual backups and control everything directly from the SME control panel (slice size, etc.) rather than requiring some some settings (like the slice size) be set using config setprop commands. Since SME's regular backup also uses the dar command it seems like something that would be pretty easy to do.

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2024, 04:55:46 PM »
Hi all

Same message here.
And of course, yum update is now longer working as "mirrorlist.centos.org" do not resolve to an IP adress anymore.

In the meantime, is there a way to keep access to the existing repo ?

Kind regards.

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2024, 05:09:58 PM »
I'm afraid I would have no idea how to add SME files to a Rocky distro so I'll have to wait until Alpha is released before I could even try testing.

Read, and try. That way you learn. Just as I did years ago. And I am still no coder, but your server runs on bits I wrote or debugged or tested. There are lots of things that I can do to help.

Alpha will be when it arrives. The more that help the faster it gets done. Regrettably only a few help. As ever. That is why it is late. Not enough volunteers helping.

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However, might I suggest adding an SME Server 11.x news section to the forum so it will be easier to keep up to date on SME 11 specific information.


We may but it really isn't the top of the list of priorities right now. I have a suggestion for you though. How about you volunteer to become a forum admin and help do that for us?

Note - there is no v11 as such at the minute. There is a Rocky 8 install and a bunch of adapted SME v10 packages that will run on it roughly. It is still a major works in progress.

We are few. We have lives and wives and kids. We don't get paid to do this. We do it as we can in our spare time, or retirement for some.

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And I do have one suggestion for those who actually know how to program such things:

I think you might know the answer to this right now.

If you want it done, please help. My suggestion. How about volunteering to help work on this? People will help you to learn.

Brian is involved in a major rewrite of the server-manager. If you want see this sort of thing then help him. Get involved. Like Mr Brady said to me years ago. Don't just sit there and hope someone else will do it all. DO something.

Test, write docs, learn to code a bit. But don't just sit there making suggestions. Actually ask how you can help make it happen, and do something to make it happen.

FWIW I made 'suggestions' about v9. After getting my ears burned I got a RH EL6 install and tried to force install the SME packages on it. I had almost no idea what i was doing but what we soon realised was we hit a major blocker to inline upgrading. It kicked off the conversation with others and v9 started to be built.

ANYONE can do this.

That is what open source is about. Getting involved.
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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2024, 05:23:41 PM »
Note that there is a bug on this which should cause the server to modify the repos to 'vault' after the EOL date but it didn't appear to have worked on my boxes.

We will investigate.

https://bugs.koozali.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227
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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2024, 05:49:12 PM »

You have to manually install Rocky and then add the SME packages to test.


Do we need a Rocket.Chat account to d/l the packages to install on Rocky? Or where would I find the SME packages? I'd like to give it a try...

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2024, 06:22:34 PM »
Do we need a Rocket.Chat account to d/l the packages to install on Rocky? Or where would I find the SME packages? I'd like to give it a try...

No you don't but it will help you and us enormously if you join us.

a) you will likely struggle to install
b) you won't know what to look for
c) you will likely think something is bug that we already know about

There are still a few big pieces that are not yet included/upgraded as JP tests them.

https://wiki.koozali.org/Sme11BuildQueue#Bare_install_test

Bugs to fix
https://bugs.koozali.org/buglist.cgi?action=wrap&product=SME%20Server%2011.X&target_milestone=11.alpha1&bug_status=CONFIRMED

Bugs to verify
https://bugs.koozali.org/buglist.cgi?action=wrap&product=SME%20Server%2011.X&target_milestone=11.alpha1&bug_status=RESOLVED

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2024, 10:59:33 PM »

DM me for an account.

Have it up and running in KVM, I'll be able to play with it over the weekend. Now just have to figure out how to DM here...

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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2024, 02:13:36 AM »
Have it up and running in KVM, I'll be able to play with it over the weekend. Now just have to figure out how to DM here...
I'd try clicking on the 'pm' icon at the bottom of the users info box next to their forum post  8-) ;)
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Re: Got a notice today on my 10.1 server...
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2024, 02:06:13 PM »
I'd try clicking on the 'pm' icon at the bottom of the users info box next to their forum post  8-) ;)

They found it ;-)

Anyone else who wants to come and talk to us just DM me.

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2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

If you love SME and don't want to lose it, join in: http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation