Topic: SME Server 7.0 release status (see thread in SME 7.x forum)

[gordonr]

Thanks pfloor,
It must be me then, I'm using wget and burning using a Mac.

No, it may not be you. There have been various reports against SME Server, CentOS and RH about mediacheck not working on some motherboards.

[mudra]

Not sure if this is a bug or not. I received an email telling me that my ClamAV was out of date so I tried to run yum update.

It fails with the following lines:-

Running transaction check
--> Processing Dependency: centos-release for package: e-smith-release
--> Processing Dependency: /etc/redhat-release for package: initscripts
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Missing Dependency: /etc/redhat-release is needed by package initscripts
Error: Missing Dependency: centos-release is needed by package e-smith-release

Not sure if I am doing something wrong or whether its a bug in BETA2. Everything else I need works so well I don't want to have to move to BETA4 unless I have to.

Any thoughts anyone ?

TIA

Mudra

[gregswallow]

mudra,
I don't think you're using SME7 beta for the right reasons.  It should be solely to test and report bugs to the developers so the final product can be better.  You should be using the latest beta at all times if that is the case.

[thedude]

the keyword being BETA.

BETA=bugs & not for production use

I'd bet they're pretty close to a stable release. Well, I can hope can't I?

[mudra]

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear in my original post.

I am asking whether I should make a bug report, or whether this is just "beta" software behaviour.

I never expected such a response to what was meant to be a helpful post.

I thought I was using the BETA software in the correct way by loading it onto my test box and reporting what I found. My main box is down at the moment and so I don't want to have to reinstall just now.

Still I think I will give reporting this issue a miss, and let other people running the software for the "right" reasons make the running.

Mudra

[thedude]

There was no offense intended. From your original post it looked like you wanted to stay with beta 2 and not upgrade. That looks like you are intending this for a production server.

typical communication snafu in forums

[mudra]

No offense taken. Its easy to get the wrong end of the stick. I should have taken a deep breath before I wrote anything.

Going for a beer and download the new beta whilst I am out and start testing that over the weekend.

Mudra

[gordonr]

Not sure if I am doing something wrong or whether its a bug in BETA2. Everything else I need works so well I don't want to have to move to BETA4 unless I have to.

As an aside, please don't report issues with older betas - it takes us extra time to work out whether it's still an issue as the code does change significantly between releases.

Thanks,

Gordon

[wallyrp]

Good Evening,

Outside of all the dedication of the developers and others, which I sincerely appreciate, where did the contribs logo go in the server-manager? Is it going back to the Mitel look and/or Mitel totally? Are we making a distinction/statement here that it is a sourceforge release?

[gordonr]

Good Evening,

Outside of all the dedication of the developers and others, which I sincerely appreciate, where did the contribs logo go in the server-manager? Is it going back to the Mitel look and/or Mitel totally? Are we making a distinction/statement here that it is a sourceforge release?

We've been concentrating on the underlying work, that's all. We need to think about splash pages, banners, etc., but we need to do it in a way that doesn't cause package forks, and retains Copyright and due notice.

[morpheusx]

I got SME7b4 running nicely on a P4 2ghz system. Everything seems to work but I have one query.

I have 2 x 200 gb drives. I understand 7.0 does automatic RAID - but how do I confirm that SME is actually using RAID1 mirroring? The install options were just install or upgrade and there was no mention of RAID. I can't see any obvious way to see this from the admin interface.

Otherwise so far, so good!

[gordonr]

I have 2 x 200 gb drives. I understand 7.0 does automatic RAID - but how do I confirm that SME is actually using RAID1 mirroring? The install options were just install or upgrade and there was no mention of RAID. I can't see any obvious way to see this from the admin interface.

cat /proc/mdstat

BTW: If you don't have RAID1, you'll also be constantly nagged by mails to admin about a degraded RAID system. It's in the bug tracker, but we haven't fixed it yet.

[morpheusx]

cat /proc/mdstat

Thanks! I'm a bit surprised there isn't a general server status screen on the web admin interface, with items like uptime, load, RAM, drive status (raid, capacity) and the like.

Given that SME is usually a headless server, keeping an eye on items like this via the web seems like an important feature. Wouldn't this be useful info for the type of admin SME is aimed at? Going to a command line seems to be asking a lot.

Morph

[gordonr]

Thanks! I'm a bit surprised there isn't a general server status screen on the web admin interface, with items like uptime, load, RAM, drive status (raid, capacity) and the like.

Given that SME is usually a headless server, keeping an eye on items like this via the web seems like an important feature. Wouldn't this be useful info for the type of admin SME is aimed at? Going to a command line seems to be asking a lot.

If the system isn't nagging you about RAID, it's working fine

There are quite a few server status monitoring packages available as contribs here - have a search. There are lots of things which could or even should be in the web manager, and the plan is for them to be easy to install via the Software Installer/yum.

[thedude]

Continuing the RAID thoughts.....

I'm testing a SME7b4 box - AMD64 3200, 1gb, 2 SATA's @ 200gb, ABIT V80 with onboard raid (not used). I'm letting SME handle the mirroring automatically. However, I'm running into some problems. I don't know if this is a bug or just my lack of linux raid experience so I thought i'd start here.

Here's what I'm doing. After the installation and the mirror synch (cat /proc/mdstat to see status), I'm unplugging one of the mirrored drives to simulate failure. Then I reboot the machine, but it only comes up to a grub> prompt. I would think that it would boot into SME, or if not, what step am I missing in my testing?

Here is the mirror status:

Personalities : [raid1]
md2 : active raid1 sdb2[1] sda2[0]
      195253888 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md1 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0]
      104320 blocks [2/2] [UU]

unused devices: <none>

Oddly enough, I get the same error, if I try to use the onboard raid. I can install SME just fine, but after the installation it only comes up to a grub> prompt.