Topic: no access to contribs using static ip

[fixit]

Jackl, I have tried just about everything, yes i have tried the bridging modem technique with xp and sme, which is what i left it on now.

I tried everything that everyone has recommened to do and still the same problem, the page just displays no error messages, no test at all just a blank page, nothing else.

I contacted my isp and gave the trace route info with static and dynamic ip info as shown below. the difference between the two is from hop 2 to 12 but they still both end up @ contribs, yet no can tell me what the problem is, yet????

If i didn't have sme as my server i wouldn't care, but since i like using sme it has become important that i can visit contribs when i need info and not have to keep removing my static ip for a visit to contribs, gets annoying afyer a while


Static IP

Tracing route to contribs.org [207.182.33.10]over a maximum of 30 hops:  

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  fix.fixitcomputers.com.au [192.168.1.1]  
2    50 ms    49 ms    49 ms  61.9.128.250  
3    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  adelaide-atm.vic.bigpond.net.au [61.9.128.145]  
4    48 ms    50 ms    49 ms  61.9.129.6  
5    49 ms    49 ms    48 ms  GigabitEthernet2-10.exi2.Melbourne.telstra.net [139.130.0.5]  
6    48 ms    49 ms    49 ms  GigabitEthernet2-9.exi1.Melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.77.33]  
7    51 ms    49 ms    49 ms  GigabitEthernet2-0.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.77.17]  
8    63 ms    66 ms    65 ms  Pos15-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.37]  
9    65 ms    65 ms    66 ms  InterfaceA.oxf-core1.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.2]  
10    66 ms    67 ms    65 ms  GigabitEthernet6-0.syd-core04.Sydney.net.reach.com [203.50.13.34]  
11    64 ms    66 ms    65 ms  i-5-0.syd-core02.net.reach.com [202.84.144.249]  
12   214 ms   215 ms   215 ms  i-0-0.wil-core02.net.reach.com [202.84.144.101]  
13   214 ms   215 ms   214 ms  i-6-2.wil04.net.reach.com [202.84.251.186]  
14   215 ms   215 ms   215 ms  lax-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.4.53]  
15   215 ms   215 ms   214 ms  lax-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.19.41]  
16   225 ms   226 ms   225 ms  bur-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.42]  
17   250 ms   251 ms   251 ms  tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.2]  
18   236 ms   237 ms   235 ms  phv-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.129.86]  
19   243 ms   241 ms   250 ms  65.121.93.134  
20   258 ms   258 ms   258 ms  t2-0.Tucson-enss1.t3.LOGIN.COM [204.17.35.106]  
21   257 ms   258 ms   257 ms  Core-GW.Opus1.COM [207.182.35.58]  
22   267 ms   261 ms   262 ms  DSL-GW3.Opus1.COM [204.27.149.14]  
23   269 ms   270 ms   266 ms  coleman-Rstrat-T1.Opus1.NET [207.182.63.246]  
24   254 ms   267 ms   254 ms  www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa [207.182.33.10]

Dynamic

Tracing route to contribs.org [207.182.33.10]over a maximum of 30 hops:  
1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  fix.fixitcomputers.com.au [192.168.1.1]  
2    22 ms    22 ms    23 ms  172.31.142.24  
3    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  172.31.170.6  
4    19 ms    19 ms    19 ms  61.9.208.139  
5    22 ms    19 ms    19 ms  CPE-61-9-210-6.qld.bigpond.net.au [61.9.210.6]  
6    22 ms    19 ms    20 ms  GigabitEthernet3-3.woo4.Brisbane.telstra.net [139.130.239.249]  
7    20 ms    22 ms    19 ms  GigabitEthernet6-0.woo-core1.Brisbane.telstra.net [203.50.51.129]  
8    33 ms    32 ms    32 ms  Pos5-0.ken-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.221]  
9    34 ms    32 ms    33 ms  10GigabitEthernet3-0.pad-core4.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.86]  
10    33 ms    33 ms    32 ms  GigabitEthernet2-2.syd-core01.Sydney.net.reach.com [203.50.13.38]  
11   182 ms   181 ms   181 ms  i-6-1.wil-core02.net.reach.com [202.84.249.201]  
12   181 ms   181 ms   182 ms  i-6-2.wil04.net.reach.com [202.84.251.186]  
13   182 ms   180 ms   182 ms  lax-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.4.53]  
14   182 ms   182 ms   182 ms  lax-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.19.41]  
15   189 ms   188 ms   189 ms  bur-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.42]  
16   218 ms   218 ms   218 ms  tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.8.2]  
17   202 ms   202 ms   201 ms  phv-edge-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.129.86]  
18   224 ms   225 ms   226 ms  65.121.93.134  
19   207 ms   209 ms   209 ms  t2-0.Tucson-enss1.t3.LOGIN.COM [204.17.35.106]  
20   212 ms   211 ms   210 ms  Core-GW.Opus1.COM [207.182.35.58]  
21   228 ms   235 ms   227 ms  DSL-GW3.Opus1.COM [204.27.149.14]  
22   236 ms   238 ms   234 ms  coleman-Rstrat-T1.Opus1.NET [207.182.63.246]  
23   244 ms   236 ms   234 ms  www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa [207.182.33.10]

[raem]

fixit

> ...the page just displays no error messages, no test at all just a blank page, nothing else.

Which browser ?
Have you tried using different browsers ?
Have you set your browser back to default security settings and other default settings, perhaps you enabled something that is bocking contribs ?

[raem]

fixit

here are a few unanswered & additional questions

1) You said "This all was working great a couple of weeks ago"
So what have you changed since then, anything ?
Not just things you think may be responsible but ANYTHING you changed.


2) You said "once i remove my static ip address, i can view contribs and email contribs",
and
"......using sme it has become important that i can visit contribs when i need info and not have to keep removing my static ip for a visit to contribs...."
Can you view other web sites in that configuration (when you cannot access contribs).
Can you use other forums and post messages ?
Are there any other sites you cannot access ?


3) You quoted a Gateway IP earlier, in the configuration that did not work.
You didn't quote a Gateway IP, in your more recent configuration that allowed external access to your site.
Does your configuration also need a Gateway IP, if so what ?
I'm not sure if it's needed with your setup (PPPOE ?), but with my bridged modem & static IP (ADSL) I have one (issued by my ISP).


4) In the sme configuration that provides external access to your site, can you ping contribs.org by URL and IP from your server command prompt and from workstations ?

[fixit]

So what have you changed since then: NOTHING

Can you view other web sites in that configuration (when you cannot access contribs). YES

Can you use other forums and post messages? YES

Are there any other sites you cannot access? NO

Got some more stats for you all to ponder on, collected from sme

[Static] # ifconfig
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:05:1C:13:66:B8
          inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/209
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:170 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:238 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:25488 (24.8 Kb)  TX bytes:49570 (48.4 Kb)

eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:B0:57:48:E5
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:242 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:257 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:78244 (76.4 Kb)  TX bytes:37982 (37.0 Kb)

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:2166 (2.1 Kb)  TX bytes:2166 (2.1 Kb)

ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
          inet addr:61.9.212.66  P-t-P:61.9.128.251  Mask:255.255.255.255
          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1492  Metric:1
          RX packets:224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:242 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0
          RX bytes:75603 (73.8 Kb)  TX bytes:32109 (31.3 Kb)

[Static] # route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
61.9.128.251    *               255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp0
192.168.1.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
127.0.0.0       *               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         61.9.128.251    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp0

[raem]

fixit

Why do you always only answer some of the questions, you may know the answers but we don't !!

4) In the sme configuration that provides external access to your site, can you ping contribs.org by URL and IP from your server command prompt and from workstations ? Show us the output from those attempts.


> ...the page just displays no error messages, no test at all just a blank page, nothing else.

Which browser ?

Have you tried using different browsers ? With what result ?

Have you set your browser back to default security settings and other default settings, perhaps you enabled something that is blocking contribs ?

[fixit]

Why do you always only answer some of the questions, you may know the answers but we don't !! Sorry about that, I'm doing the best I can

4) In the sme configuration that provides external access to your site, can you ping contribs.org by URL and IP from your server command prompt and from workstations ? Show us the output from those attempts. I will post them soon, need to reconfigure sme and reboot, got a call out now.


> ...the page just displays no error messages, no text at all just a blank page, nothing else.

Which browser ? IE & Firefox

Have you tried using different browsers ? With what result ? Yes

Have you set your browser back to default security settings and other default settings, perhaps you enabled something that is blocking contribs ? Yes

[fixit]

I have an sme server, 4 workstations, all of them have no access to contribs with static ip, I use my customers pc's as well to access contribs, which have all different version of os's & browsers.

once i remove the static ip, any workstation on the network can view contribs

[fixit]

Ping in SME contribs.org

64 bytes from www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa (207.182.33.10): icmp_seq=494 ttl=44 time=495 ms
64 bytes from www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa (207.182.33.10): icmp_seq=495 ttl=44 time=584 ms

--- contribs.org ping statistics ---
496 packets transmitted, 494 received, 0% loss, time 499814ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 260.135/421.114/951.075/155.532 ms

[root@fix root]# ping contribs.org
PING contribs.org (207.182.33.10) from 61.9.212.66 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa (207.182.33.10): icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=262 ms
64 bytes from www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa (207.182.33.10): icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 time=264 ms
64 bytes from www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa (207.182.33.10): icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 time=280 ms
64 bytes from www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa (207.182.33.10): icmp_seq=4 ttl=44 time=318 ms

--- contribs.org ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% loss, time 3030ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 262.841/281.756/318.748/22.452 ms
[root@fix root]#

[root@fix root]# ping 207.182.33.10
PING 207.182.33.10 (207.182.33.10) from 61.9.212.66 : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=440 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=2 ttl=44 time=607 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 time=623 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=4 ttl=44 time=482 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=5 ttl=44 time=478 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=6 ttl=44 time=521 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=7 ttl=44 time=306 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=8 ttl=44 time=276 ms
64 bytes from 207.182.33.10: icmp_seq=9 ttl=44 time=331 ms

--- 207.182.33.10 ping statistics ---
9 packets transmitted, 9 received, 0% loss, time 8071ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 276.192/451.969/623.379/118.797 ms

[dhardy]

Guys,

From reading all of this it seems to me that there is a problem at the Contribs end.

If Fixit is able to tracert as far onto the net as he has done, he's off the telstra network and into the US. The return route must be buggered.

IMO what's needed is a tracert from contribs.org back to  his various IP's published in this thread.

My guess is that a trace to Fixit's static IP is going to come out of contribs via a different route to the trace coming in and stop after a few hops.

So, is it possible for one of the admins to ssh to contribs and have a go?

HTH

David.

[raem]

fixit

Those pings from sme server command prompt seem OK.

With the sme server configured the same way, can you do the same pings from a windows workstation, what result do you get ?
eg
C:/winnt> ping contribs.org
C:\winnt> ping 207.182.33.10

[fixit]

Ping url & ip in XP

Microsoft(R) Windows DOS
(C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1990-2001.

C:\ping contribs.org

Pinging contribs.org [207.182.33.10] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=268ms TTL=43
Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=266ms TTL=43
Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=262ms TTL=43
Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=265ms TTL=43

Ping statistics for 207.182.33.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 262ms, Maximum = 268ms, Average = 265ms


C:\ping 207.182.33.10

Pinging 207.182.33.10 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=262ms TTL=43
Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=43
Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=265ms TTL=43
Reply from 207.182.33.10: bytes=32 time=269ms TTL=43

Ping statistics for 207.182.33.10:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 261ms, Maximum = 269ms, Average = 264ms

C:\^A

[raem]

fixit

>....and still the same problem, the page just displays no error messages, no test at all just a blank page, nothing else.

Are you sure that this is not your problem.

http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-1009_11-5690398.html#

[fixit]

Hi Ray, I had a look at TechRepublic article on Why interactive Web site features often conflict with security best practices

Yes, I understand what the article was on about and I'm sure we have all experienced that type of problem before.

OK, so if that was the situation in my case, why is it then, if I was to remove my static ip and keep the same security settings for the browser, firewall, antivirus and what ever else I can change, I can then view the website in question

If it was a browser setting or firewall setting or what ever setting, then it wouldn't matter what ip address i was using, but that is not the case here.

It's a static ip issue

I have had about 8 computers on my network, some with fresh install of xp, some with win98 and 95 with different browser setting and security, all of these computers do the same thing when viewing contribs.org with static ip, once static ip is removed, every computer on the network can view contribs.

I can deffinitely say, it's not a security issue on my end

[dhardy]

Assuming that 61.9.128.250 is between you and me, and between you and contribs here's what I've found.

From my IP in the UK I get:

X:\>tracert 61.9.128.250

Tracing route to 61.9.128.250 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  my.router [192.168.216.254]
  2    24 ms    41 ms    23 ms  gauss-dsl.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.18]
  3    26 ms    26 ms    25 ms  deleuze-ge-0-1-0-1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.161]
  4    28 ms    25 ms    25 ms  lotze-ge-0-0-0-0.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.57]
  5    27 ms    25 ms    25 ms  bolzano-ge-0-0-3-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.53]
  6    25 ms    25 ms    26 ms  195.16.169.89
  7    28 ms    25 ms    25 ms  so-10-0.hsa1.Manchesteruk1.Level3.net [4.68.113.97]
  8    84 ms    35 ms    49 ms  ae-1-0.bbr1.London2.Level3.net [212.187.128.46]
  9   107 ms   111 ms   104 ms  as-0-0.bbr2.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.128.102]
 10   167 ms   169 ms   170 ms  as-1-0.bbr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [64.159.0.246]
 11   181 ms   168 ms   170 ms  4.68.102.104
 12   165 ms   166 ms   166 ms  reach-level3-oc12.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.127.238]
 13   167 ms   169 ms   166 ms  202.84.251.165
 14   316 ms   317 ms   331 ms  i-0_0.syd-core02.net.reach.com [202.84.144.102]
 15   337 ms   315 ms   320 ms  i-5-0.syd-core04.net.reach.com [202.84.144.250]
 16   316 ms   317 ms   317 ms  10GigabitEthernet5-0.oxf-core1.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.13.33]
 17   319 ms   317 ms   317 ms  10GigabitEthernet13-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net [203.50.6.1]
 18   333 ms   333 ms   332 ms  Pos9-0.exi-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.6.38]
 19   331 ms   330 ms   330 ms  GigabitEthernet2-7.exi1.Melbourne.telstra.net [203.50.77.14]
 20   333 ms   334 ms   333 ms  bpber001.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.0.14]
 21   332 ms   333 ms   331 ms  61.9.129.4
 22   329 ms   331 ms   329 ms  61.9.128.250

Trace complete.

X:\>tracert contribs.org

Tracing route to contribs.org [207.182.33.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  my.router [192.168.216.254]
  2    26 ms    27 ms    21 ms  gauss-dsl.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.18]
  3    23 ms    27 ms    24 ms  deleuze-ge-0-1-0-1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.161]
  4    34 ms    35 ms    35 ms  suarez-so-0-0-0-0.te.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.62]
  5    37 ms    34 ms    32 ms  ge1-1.fr1.lon.llnw.net [195.66.224.133]
  6    98 ms   101 ms    97 ms  e1-8.fr1.lga.llnw.net [69.28.172.125]
  7   103 ms   104 ms   101 ms  ge2-3.fr1.iad.llnw.net [69.28.172.217]
  8   139 ms   140 ms   140 ms  ge1-12.fr1.dal.llnw.net [69.28.172.213]
  9   174 ms   173 ms   176 ms  ge1-3-0-26.jr1.phx1.llnw.net [69.28.172.201]
 10   197 ms   196 ms   196 ms  login-gx-oc3.so2-2-2.jr1.phx1.llnw.net [69.28.139.246]
 11   199 ms   196 ms   199 ms  t2-0.tucson-enss1.t3.login.com [204.17.35.106]
 12   202 ms   203 ms   196 ms  core-gw.opus1.com [207.182.35.58]
 13   201 ms   202 ms   202 ms  dsl-gw3.opus1.com [204.27.149.14]
 14   205 ms   209 ms   209 ms  coleman-rstrat-t1.opus1.net [207.182.63.246]
 15   203 ms   202 ms   202 ms  www.contribs.org.33.182.207.in-addr.arpa [207.182.33.10]

Trace complete.

Now, when I go to www.dnsstuff.com and use their tracert and ping utilities I can get to www.contribs.org - but I can't get to 61.9.128.250

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http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/ping.ch?ip=61.9.128.250

Ping to 61.9.128.250
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com at 10:22:28 GMT on 14 May 2005.

Pinging 61.9.128.250 [61.9.128.250]:

Ping #1: * [No response]
Ping #2: * [No response]
Ping #3: * [No response]
Ping #4: * [No response]

Done pinging 61.9.128.250!

(to do an IPv6 ping for a domain name, add a ':' before the domain name)

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http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=61.9.128.250

Tracert to 61.9.128.250
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com at 10:20:48 GMT on 14 May 2005.
Hop   Time 1   Time 2   Time 3   IP   Hostname   Return TTL   Country   Time
1   2 ms   1 ms   1 ms   206.196.11.254    [www.DNSstuff.com 1st hop]   64   United States   [Router did not respond]
2   2 ms   1 ms   1 ms   216.26.129.83    core-rtr01.ge-1-3-0.sdf.xodiax.net.   252   United States   [Router did not respond]
3   24 ms   905 ms   *   216.26.129.83    core-rtr01.ge-1-3-0.sdf.xodiax.net.   252   United States   [Router did not respond]
4   2 ms   302 ms   3 ms   216.26.128.225    edge-rtr02.ge-0-2-0.sdf.xodiax.net.   252   United States   Unix: 10:20:57.162
5   8 ms   903 ms   *   65.117.168.137    chi-edge-09.inet.qwest.net.   251   United States   [Router did not respond]
6   *   *   *                   
7   *   *   *                   
8   *   *   *                   
9   8 ms   603 ms   *   134.159.63.41    p1-1.chi-core01.net.reach.com.   248   Hong Kong   Unix: 10:21:11.298
10   305 ms   300 ms   55 ms   202.84.249.77    i-2-0.sjc-core01.net.reach.com.   247   Hong Kong   Unix: 10:21:14.446
11   215 ms   *   *   202.84.249.85    i-4-0.syd-core04.net.reach.com.   245   Hong Kong   Unix: 10:21:17.794
12   305 ms   302 ms   214 ms   203.50.13.33    10GigabitEthernet5-0.oxf-core1.Sydney.telstra.net.   244   Australia   Unix: 10:21:20.654
13   219 ms   *   *   203.50.6.1    10GigabitEthernet13-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net.   243   Australia   Unix: 10:21:24.137
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Done!

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http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/tracert.ch?ip=contribs.org

Tracert to contribs.org
Generated by www.DNSstuff.com at 10:19:33 GMT on 14 May 2005.
Hop   Time 1   Time 2   Time 3   IP   Hostname   Return TTL   Country   Time
1   1 ms   1 ms   0 ms   206.196.11.254    [www.DNSstuff.com 1st hop]   64   United States   [Router did not respond]
2   2 ms   899 ms   1 ms   216.26.129.83    core-rtr01.ge-1-3-0.sdf.xodiax.net.   252   United States   Unix: 10:19:37.243
3   1 ms   2 ms   299 ms   216.26.129.83    core-rtr01.ge-1-3-0.sdf.xodiax.net.   252   United States   [Router did not respond]
4   2 ms   1 ms   2 ms   216.26.128.225    edge-rtr02.ge-0-2-0.sdf.xodiax.net.   252   United States   [Router did not respond]
5   7 ms   901 ms   *   65.117.168.137    chi-edge-09.inet.qwest.net.   251   United States   Unix: 10:19:45.966
6   8 ms   902 ms   *   205.171.20.125    chi-core-03.inet.qwest.net.   250   United States   [Router did not respond]
7   58 ms   *   *   205.171.205.85    tmp-core-02.inet.qwest.net.   249   United States   Unix: 10:19:52. 1
8   301 ms   302 ms   54 ms   205.171.129.90    phv-edge-01.inet.qwest.net.   248   United States   Unix: 10:19:54.820
9   59 ms   *   *   65.121.93.134    unknown.qwest.net   247   United States   [Router did not respond]
10   61 ms   902 ms   *   204.17.35.106    t2-0.Tucson-enss1.t3.login.com.   247   United States   Unix: 10:20:00.407
11   61 ms   902 ms   *   207.182.35.58    Core-GW.Opus1.COM.   119   United States   [Router did not respond]
12   63 ms   902 ms   *   204.27.149.14    DSL-GW3.Opus1.COM.   245   United States   Unix: 10:20:06.427
13   71 ms   *   *   207.182.63.246    coleman-Rstrat-T1.Opus1.NET.   243   United States   Unknown: 82febe0d
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17   70 ms   *   *   207.182.33.10    gpl.contribs.org.
[Reached Destination]   51   United States   [Router did not respond]
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Done!

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So, my diagnosis is that there is a problem somewhere in Telstra. You need to get hold of a good engineer at Telstra who'll listen and who is interested in fixing this problem.

From the UK I arrive at  10GigabitEthernet13-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net and get correctly routed on, from the www.dnsstuff.com site I get to 10GigabitEthernet13-0.chw-core2.Sydney.telstra.net and get lost.

HTH - Good Luck!

David.

[fixit]

what about nameservers

ns.interworx.com.au. 203.220.28.71
ns2.interworx.com.au. 203.220.28.72

probably around the same time I started having trouble with contribs is when i got interworx to be my nameserver.

could this be an issue